Dawson shocked by Habana’s Pienaar pick

Rugby World Cup winners Matt Dawson and Bryan Habana have been debating their tournament Top 10s in a new series on BBC Sounds.

It's safe to say former England scrum half Dawson was shocked by ex-Springbok wing Habana's placement of legendary lock Francois Pienaar on his list of all-time captains.

Listen to the Rugby World Cup Top 10 series by subscribing to the Rugby Union Weekly podcast.