
Pam Ayres, Robin Ince and Lou Conran
Ian McMillan's Late Night Language Lock-in with Pam Ayres, Robin Ince and Lou Conran.
This week The Verb explores the different ways in which writers use comedy and 'lightness' in their language and performance to carry heavy or serious thought.
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Pam Ayres

Writer, broadcaster and entertainer Pam Ayres talks about her writing process, the way Spike Milligan inspired her as a child, how it feels to perform on stage, and the perfect length for a funny poem. She shares some work-in progress - a sequence called ‘Flight Time’ – linked verses that are yet to be published. We also hear ‘Driving Home’, a poem that shows a different side to her work. Pam also discusses the way that writing from different perspectives can help her express different emotions - that why she writes from the point of view of a very disgruntled hedgehog in her new book ‘The Last Hedgehog’ (Picador), written to mark National Hedgehog Awareness Week.
Lou Conran

Lou Conran is a writer, performer and a comedian. We hear a brand new drama Lou has written especially for The Verb ( in collaboration with BBC The Writer’s Room ) called ‘Arboreal Apes’. Lou explains to Ian how she finds the right names for her characters, and shares the best advice she was given about editing her work: ‘If you don’t miss it when it’s gone it was never supposed to be there’. Lou is currently touring her new show ‘I Love You Lou C’
In ‘Arboreal Apes’
Graham is played by Jonathan Keeble
Valerie by Susan Twist
Maria by Verity Henry
Directed by Sharon Sephton
Robin Ince

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- Fri 11 May 2018 22:00BBC Radio 3
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