John Terry relishes the limelight as Chelsea march on

Arsenal played ok and deserved a point despite missing Diaby's physicality and Ramsey having another shocker.

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Same old Arsenal. Got schooled by Chelsea on set pieces today. All in all it was a very even game with not much between the two teams. All the goals in the game were down to bad defending, where was David Luiz for Arsenal's goal?

Man C are mis-firing, Man U are over-the-hill, Arsenal still playing catch-up. Before the season started I fancied Chelsea for the title. Everton and Spurs as their main challengers?!

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You are a classic example of somebody brainwashed by the media's twisted stories. Who cares if he did or did not have a short affair? The media claimed Giggs had an even worse affair but no one bats an eyelid. And the whole shaking hands hype is utter ridiculous. Pre-match handshakes defy logic anyway....

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I can't see Spurs challenging, AVB's lack of tactical nous and arrogance will cost them. Look a good team though...

2. Two England manager's don't agree with you and despite the hype surrounding the FA kangaroo court charge, the man has been cleared in an English court of law and was defended by 2 black players. His social life may not be to your taste (or mine), but he shows more respect for the game and its rules than some who contribute here in columns or tweets, so as a football role-model he is better than most IMO

Let's not get carried away with Chelsea too soon. Remember they did get ripped apart by Athletico and yes, they have played alright so far this season, but the real difference today was Arsenal's poor set piece defending. Chelsea didn't exactly fashion many opportunities from open play. Really expected more vision from hazard but his eye for a pass and final ball have not been fantastic so far. I though Torres would find himself in many one on one situations every game, but it is rarely happening. Chelsea will get ripped apart several times this year, but the more they play... the better they will get.

I am delighted to see JT play through the nonsense. I hate racism but lets get some perspective. First, Anton Ferdinand admitted he spent said game trying to get a 'rise' from JT. So here we have to ask: can you wander around a football field throwing any level of insult at a player and its OK as long as race in some form is not involved. The FA are blind to the fact of inverse racism. Why would Avram Grant come out in support of JT? It is staggering to imagine that this man knows nothing of racism. STAMP OUT ABUSE both players had to be charged. Make sense and go for ABUSE whatever

Six games played and I don't think that any Chelsea fans will be saying anything other than we have an excellent chance of a top four finish, we are a work in progress. Arsenal are a good side and will keep on improving; City are still favourites to win the league, and justifiably so; Utd are going to be very close at the death; Spurs and Everton are looking good too, plus another will possibly spring from those outside of the six I've mentioned? It could be a another cracking season developing.

So one narrow defeat and we are no longer title contenders? bit too early to be saying that I think.... was a fairly close game and we had our chances... lots of twists and turns to come...

Chelsea are looking good at the moment.

I'm not surprised Terry played today. Whatever view you have of him you have to appreciate his mental strength - he has an ability to put off field events to one side when he plays.

In my opinion Torres will need to keep scoring consistently if they are to have a chance of winning the league this year.

Arsenal will be nowhere near the title. I'm not sure why some people were talking up their chances after a couple of decent games. They are currently a couple of points behind Spurs who were getting quite a bit of stick in recent times.

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Like Ferdinand, Rooney, Barton and many others, Terry doesn't come across as likeable. However, although he lacks great footballing ability, he is 100% committed, is a leader and is usually effective.
As regards Chelsea. If Mikel and Ramires can cut out losing possession and concentrate, Chelsea may well win the league.
I don't buy this pressure rubbish though. If you're paid £200,000 a week you can cope with most things. These boys aren't heroes.

Congratulations to the English lionheart John Terry. Proud to see the media defending him and making excuses for his behavior. Shame he got a harsh 4 game ban.

Not like that jonny foreigner Suarez who was lucky to get an 8 game fan.

Xenophobia is rife in all levels of English football and society. In particular the media and FA.

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Evening all. Quick view from the championship. Charlton played really well today and should have won, but a good point. Now back to the side show of the Premiership....

I dislike Chelsea and to some extent, John Terry with a passion. This is completely to do with him being the captain of a club I utterly dislike.

Put all of that aside, the man was cleared in a court of law. What the hell gives the right for a football association to completely disregard this? Then to compound it even further, by using their usual disregard for continuity by giving a completely different punishment to that of Suarez.

Heads need to roll in the FA at every level. The whole association is becoming something that is so detached from the game, an association that was there when it all began.

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Hey Baggio, how's it going?

I think Ferguson was annoyed that he didn't get his usual injury time to equalise.

@20 Drastic

Good thanks. Just watching the golf. Not looking good for Europe at the moment...

Yeah his comments about the injury time were comical.

Those people who were questioning Hodgson over his "footballing reasons" comment for not selecting Ferdinand will hopefully have gone quiet.

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Never been able to appreciate golf but strangely still want Europe to beat America!

@22 Drastic

I find golf quite relaxing to watch, it's easy to dip in and out of it. It's definitely not relaxing to play though - not that I play much.

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Sounds like a form of meditation!

Been away a while. Where's Londoner? Has he started his South American Odyssey?

@24 Drastic

Yes I believe he left last week and is going to the Argentina vs Uruguay match on 12 Oct (what a match that should be).

I've been to countries in most continents but none in South America. It is definitely an area i'd like to visit at some point.

Arsenal should have got a point at least - two lessons to learn - 1) zonal marking doesn't work (oops, we should have learned that last week) and 2) you've got to take your chances in this league. Time to give Walcott his head?

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Best CFC performance for a while. Still I think too many passes going astray but Torres is maturing from a striker to all rounder. Would like to say Arsene Wenger hasn't got a sporting bone in his body. In his Post match interview (unless I missed it) he never gave CFC one attaboy. What a miserable man he is.

@27 Drastic

Yes it will be interesting to get his view on the match - i'm assuming Tim Vickery will also be blogging about it.

Peru sounds fascinating - taking in Machu Picchu i'm assuming?

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Cogently expressed.

When 2 elite teams meet, their performances more or less neutralize each other or end up in a draw. Today Arsenal lost through set pieces.

MU for the last 3 or 4 seasons (masterclass spanking by Barcelona was the watershed) is a declining force where oft times they won and received undeserved points.

Fergie is a sore loser with his rant at Chris Foy. One should ask what happened to the FA 'Respect the Referees Campaign'?


Chelsea (or City) to win the Title and perhaps a repeat at CL.

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Always like Tim's blogs - free of the English tribalism.

Yeah, sadly it has beome very touristy by the sound of it, but despite this, a cultural legacy that is fascinating. Love to get a first hand feel of the history. Asia is locked up for us next year, but SA draws me, if you know what i mean

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It stands to reason that Spurs should be in the CL this season given that MU lost to the minnows of Europe and 'received a substantial of points under an inordinate amount of controversial decisions in its favour ' last season.Against MU Liverpool was robbed of at least a point with the 'lucky breaks' given to MU.
MU should have received only one(1) point instead of 3 points from the last 2 matches. No the breaks doesn't balanced each other out. Spurs were the better team today.

Kagawa should have been left on instead of Scholes. Scholes' passes (given that he had time & space in the 2nd half alluded by our sports commentators) were ordinary and not incisive whereas Kagawa's was. Go figure.

That was Fergie's mistake in deploying Scholes & Giggs as MU's 'emissaries'.
Fergie and the red machine are trying to fool football cognoscenti?
Who are they kidding? ;)

@31 Drastic

Me too - I really get a sense of the style of football and challenges and opportunities players face on that continent. Most of the contributions are considered and insightful too.

Unfortunately it is generally the case with most natural and man-made wonders - too many tourists!

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Chelsea were ok today but nothing special. They are learning how to play as a unit and still transforming their style. Terry, Cech and Cole are instrumental to balancing this transformation as is Lampard. They will curb the enthusiasm of the young guns and stabilize the team.
Arsenal were undone by Chelsea in the air as pointed out by Wenger, otherwise the sides were on a par. Chelsea's work off the ball has improved since Athletico and Torres seems to be a little sharper but he seems to be minding himself. Maybe that's not a bad thing until Sturridge is fully fit.
I think what Chelsea and City have is a toughness that United and Arsenal lack and although most of the top side play quality football, it's the ability to defend aand take chances aerially that will decide tighter games. Luiz, Terry, Ivanovich, Cahill and Torres will grab crucial goals from set pieces and help to defend against at the other end.
I'm not sure Chelsea have reached a balance in attack but it's nice to have options like Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Marin and Moses who have the craft to create and score.
Chelsea may not have the top scorer this season but they will get goals throughout the squad and it might be a good bet to back every player except Cech and Mikel to score this season.

A good point was made earlier about Mikel and Ramires losing possession too often. They need to distribute the ball quicker and improve their short game. Ramire wants to run all the time and gets caught that way. Mikel needs too wide an arc to turn.
Both problems can be corrected but their industry and covering is fine.
We'll never be happy and players vary from week to week. Overall, there are more positives than negatives and Chelsea put down a marker today when they really needed to. It has compounded Fergie's Misery and Wenger is always miserable.
Di Matteo was content today but by no means carried away. There is a lot to work to do. Satisfied but not elated. It's nice to beat Arsenal away and will do eevryone's confidence the world of good but I don't think it will pump up too many egos.

and mr mcnulty is one of the journo's milking Johns kangeroo court ordeal, trial by media is it mr mcnulty? r ferdinand uses explicitly racist language that reaches billions, John loses it under intense pressure from a ferdinand in a heated moment, shags a beautiful women and becomes the antichrist, i mean how jaded and perverse do the press have to get to sell words? why would John want to expose himself to more slagging by playing for england? already had enough,not sure how long this post will last but i have tried

9. At 22:14 29th Sep 2012, erumaegil wrote:

I am delighted to see JT play through the nonsense. I hate racism but lets get some perspective. First, Anton Ferdinand admitted he spent said game trying to get a 'rise' from JT. So here we have to ask: can you wander around a football field throwing any level of insult at a player and its OK as long as race in some form is not involved. The FA are blind to the fact of inverse racism. Why would Avram Grant come out in support of JT? It is staggering to imagine that this man knows nothing of racism. STAMP OUT ABUSE both players had to be charged. Make sense and go for ABUSE whatever

thats it exactly, John is only a human being, the kid who got those boots is not being cynical about the drama, i also think that the fa is not going to be able to reduce racial tensions in england or anywhere else, you cannot legislate morality, it comes from your parents normally and permanent peer group pressure from institutions, the envy his paycheck provokes is evident from half the posts that ask how come 200k a week does not help you transcend anger, sad day for English football.

What a contrast.

JT had the midfield (Ramires & Mikel) to thank for backing up the back four.

Rio had (Scholes, Giggs, Carrick) human pylons for Defoe, Bale, Lennon to slice through. No wonder Rio had nightmares ;)

I thought chelsea were good value for the win. Exciting players up top and Torres played well. But the stars of the show were Ramires and Mikel. They put in so much work off the ball to nullify an undoubtedly potent Arsenal attack and for once I felt confident defensively.

Say what you like about JT he is 100% committed to every game. If you don't like him it's probably because you don't know him and only have a perceived opinion from second hand red top news that half of which is probably false or exaggerated. Respect him for what he's paid to do which is defend. Best centre half at the moment. Tactically aware, passionate and reads games so well. Yes he may drop a b****ck every now and again off field but noone's perfect.

mertesacker's absence a mystery?
any football fan knows mertesackers weakness - pace and lack of technique
any football fan knows chelsea strength - pace and technique
wenger made the right decision, notice how no goals came from open play? and you can hardly blame koscielny on the second goal

Chelsea played ok,but giroud is a mystery .he gets himself in great position and does well moving around but for the life of him cant put it away.both the Chelsea goals were errors from us.so that is disappointing but id rather lose to Chelsea than man poo.we need to replace ramsay he has been on the downward trend since the start of last season,i know he had got his leg broke but there cant be any passangers anymore

Chelsea played very well and Terry showed a lot of character to ease his way through a game,playing as if he never had a care in the world.A very interesting point, in my view, is this business about the FA's judgement concerning the "presence of probability" within their own rules.Our legal system is based on evidence and facts and a Court of Law acquitted Terry.Just imagine how many innocent people would have found themselves on the end of a rope if the the FA's method of justice had been in place when capital punishment was the law in the country.

Jt the 'captain and leader'' escapes with a measly 4 match ban while the 'Dracula' got a 8 match ban for a similar offense. Normally the magnitude of punishment is always bigger for the captain of any team. Also the monetary fine can be easily recovered by having a 'guided tour' of CFC.

Abt Utd. How Carrick and Evans (Who suggested his name instead of Pique) continue to find a place in Utd team is anybody's guess. Carrick is decent but not UTD quality. Evans wont find a place in squad of top 5 club in epl. Rio & Evra are past it and can be at best squad players now. Maybe its time for Giggs to hang up his boots. Nani will defn leave by Dec. We need a genuine left winger (Like Bale) as Young too will flatter to deceive.

Can't stand this Terry love-in. The guy's a vile human being and the only reason McNulty is singing his praises is because he's English. Somehow it's okay to be a toad if you're the right nationality. Arrogant flag-waving xenophobic journalists can go stick it. Henry Winter got it right - good riddance to the 'toxic asset' (I mean Terry ;-)!

As for Chelsea, the attacking midfield trio isn't quite hitting top gear yet. They need to stop all coming inside and trying to all three play in the same position.

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As expected, the first decent team Arsenal play shows just how far they have to go still to be considered title contenders.

@47 Of course someone might point out they sneaked a draw at Man City. That was just that, a lucky escape, not the type of newfound football culture some 'experts' have tried to bestow on Arsenal. Reminded me of their 1-2 loss to Manchester United last season. Having said this. Chelsea is playing the best football at the moment. That boy Hazard is a menace and if Torres really gets going this could be their season (again).

Rik1470 obviously has some serious hatred for John Terry which is reflected in almost every contribution he makes.How people can have hatred and vitriol to such a degree against others they do not know personally is strange.I can only conclude it has to do with some tribal club loyalty and if Rik was a Chelsea fan he would have the opposite opinion.

I doubt that we would expect anything different from a man who has managed to play at a high level while questions remain about his character. Terry is a survivor but also someone that deserves our pity as his career could have given him so much more.

Lampard's days are behind him as a starter I would guess which is good news for England as it is time to move on to younger players.

https://www.soccerlimeyinamerica.com/its-not-only-r%E2%80%A6rofessionalism/

@ 44 mancunian candidate.

You're clearly on the wrong blog. Please don't bring up your team on a blog with no relevance. Unfotrunately noone cares. Thankyou

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Lets get one thing clear on JT and his'measly' 4 match ban. Suarez got 8 matches because he made several racist attacks at Evra. Also, lets get a sense of justice. JT has had all this hanging over him for a year, has had a court case against him and I would say has had far more collective grief than Suarez. Ferdinand is a foul mouthed oaf and Rio an opportunist bit of pondlife in offering his 'services' to England. Well done Shilton for saying don't pick him. We need to see the difference between a provoked racist comment and racism. The first is stupid and the second totally unacceptable. We can all be pushed into saying things we regret. Its not the same as putting a potted version of the National Front manifesto on Facebook. Frankly I think Rio Ferdinand's 'choc-ice' twitter is far more deserving of severe punishment. No-one was winding him up, he had time to think what he was doing and then he expressed his views to the World at large. Take heart JT. Joey Barton has slagged you off and when that happens you know you have the moral high ground!!

And to the match. Arsenal like Chelsea are works in progress. The difference is that Arsenal have not changed what they do, just dropped the bar as they do bit by bit each year. 6-1 v Coventry flatters to deceive as does 6-0 versus Wolves. I was at the Bridge for that and was hoping RDM would give me the nod as I think I could have grabbed a couple. The CFC changes are a project that once gelled can lead to a great team. playing in a way CFC have not done in years (if ever). Arsenal have to risk some debt if it means silverware. I know Chelseas's financial 'plan' is nuts but maybe in the end it will pay. I don't know if Chelsea will win the EPL or CL but I do know Arsenal won't.

FatClyde if you think JT is not a great footballer then you know nothing about football. Have you actually played the game? It sounds like you have no knowledge of what constitutes a good player or not. I can recall our much loved Sir Geoff Hurst coming out with an eye-wateringly racist comment on live TV. Oh yeah, I guess he was rubbish too.

All across this article i am consistently observing how you have delicately tried to malign the blues
1. Repeated ref to john terrys ban
2. Lamps left on bench
3. Contracts for 30+
4. Blaming terry for the goal
5. Past his prime
6. Milking limelight
7. Stripped of captaincy "twice"
8. Ref to chants against him glorifying them which factually died out but u dint mention tht
9. Terry's practise at blanking out hostility
10. Diminishing his contribution by calling his performance "normal service" Ironically for you his normal service is 100 times better than any other defender so the jibe dint work out well.

The list goes on.. But u need to be less biased in your opinions

"Terry's ill-judged retreat contributed to Gervinho's equaliser, but otherwise this was normal service resumed for a defender who may be past his prime but still crucial to Chelsea's cause"

Play fair Phil, he was tracking ahead of Gervinho - but Gervinho stepped back caught JT out and his first touch took it further away from JT. Acknowledge a good goal when there is a good goal. Gervinho's goal was excellent the only way to stop that one is make him the meat in a sandwhich and have a defensive midfielder the other side of him. Where was Ramires or Mikel?

But it certainly was an exciting Chelsea to see and I'm a HUGE Lampard fan. You're right it doesn't mean his day has come but there is some excelllent talent now throught that midfield. Frank still has his place his time - but the transition/evolution is well underway.

This is a great looking Chelsea side - one that Arsene Wenger didn't know what to do with yesterday. Its not one built on Granite so I fear for it with the likes of Barcelona - but its one who can take 'em on.

The future is bright - the future is Blue. JT will still be Cap'n for a little while. Sadly after him I dont see an outstanding candidate thats the one thing I do fear at the moment - who the next Captain will be after JT finishes his service at the Bridge?

SoccerLimey wrote: "..... Lampard's days are behind him as a starter I would guess which is good news for England as it is time to move on to younger players."

More drivel - but what does one expect. Lamps has his place has his time. For Chelsea its reducing because of the wealth of superb midfielders they have, for England well the midfield is rather thin - take a good look.

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Frankly I think Rio Ferdinand's 'choc-ice' twitter is far more deserving of severe punishment. No-one was winding him up, he had time to think what he was doing and then he expressed his views to the World at large.
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Ferdinand made no such comment

@ 53 erumaegil

As it transpires, The FA increased Suarez ban because he is an International playing with a world famous football team, in order to make a point.

That might suggest that the FA share the view of many Liverpool fans that Chelsea are not in fact a big team :)

" he has an uncanny ability to blank out hostility from opposition fans reacting to his latest off-the-field headlines" (McNulty) ....

"is a personality disorder that has been variously described as characterized by shallow emotions (in particular reduced fear), stress tolerance, lacking empathy, coldheartedness, lacking guilt, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity and antisocial behaviors" (Psychopathy - Wikipedia)

...just saying...

Morning all listening to the usual tripe on the Sunday Supplement while reading the blog. Interesting article Phil, Terry was pumped up big time for the game yesterday as were most of his team mates, feeding on adversity I think you would categorise it as. I am always amazed by the reactions in defence of JT, mostly by persons who seem to forget that 1) everything he has been subjected to was brought about solely by his own actions, 2) the standard applied in the law courts is significantly higher than those applied by the FA, reasonable doubt is not a factor. On the game it was won by 2 bad defensive errors by Arsenal who might have done better keeping Metesacker in the back four, Chelsea did a number on them in denying space and time and probably were luckly enough to get the 3 points out of the fixture considering the lack of opportunities they created, draw would probably have been fairer. Di Matteo clearly learned from watching the game at the Eithad last weekend and got his tactics spot on definitely disproving my initial view of him from last year. Otherwise the ref would have needed eyes in the back of his head to spot all the kicking going on off the ball and the "commited challenges", Oscar in particular luckly to stay on the pitch. Couldn't really draw any conclusions from either the performance (apart for the obvious issues with the Arsenal defence) or the result to tell how it is going to impact on the remainder of the season.

One thing this demonstrates is that fans will give their player the benefit of the doubt and support their player in these circumstances. It is not supporting racists, it is supporting the player because you are sure they are NOT a racist.
The club allowing Terry to retain the captaincy is a little more difficult to understand, with the publicity that will bring.

As far as the punishments are concerned, the FA have some explaining to do. the fines of £220k vs £40k suggests the FA believe Terry's offence worse than Suarez. 4 match ban vs 8 match ban is odd.

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You are so naive writing that ferdinand made any comments. Didnt you know that you have to be absolutely correct on facts before you write anything about "Ferdinand the legend"? You can be loose about your comments on JT ok?
About Ferdinand we are sorry but he "re-tweeted" the racist reference. He was charged and fined. Which means he is guilty of misconduct and racist comments? Or I am sure he would not have been charged. Then why don't we discuss mr ferdinand in blogs? No mention anywhere.. Forget repeated mentions. Y is his punishment not rousing any surprise? Would the media dare say off-the field? Becoz if they do i would definitely like to brin it to media notice that Terry's affair was not on the pitch of stamford bridge. Nor did he make it public across twitter for millions to view. Journalism?

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John Terry, we know what you are....

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Let me add that I am not defending JT. He has behaved irresponsibly. But I am against biased journalism which is just not the way to go. Treat them at par. Pull both of them up. Raise your voice against both not just one depending on who you fancy to take a jibe at. I aee 15 articlea starting with the introductory para.." john terry, the man who has been charged... Etc etc" before it was "john terry awaiting his trial with fa for etc etc". But for ferdinand? Ohh no nothing

@Kurt FA should also clarify their stand on ferdinand.

Ha zboy, turns out is is offensive after all.

#64
No, I am so factual.

Dear zboy i was going to respond to you but you are being disciplined by the mods for your uninformed comment and lack of uderstanding hence i will refrain from disciplining you myself

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At 11:02 30th Sep 2012, zboy1989 wrote:

he is less his morals. the man needs re-trying in a manchester court.
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So you think they would have reached a different verdict in court there? Oh dear.

Phil, you are "chief FOOTBALL writer?". So, tell us why so many words about Terry which don't describe his contribution to the football match you are reporting on?

He was by far the best centre-back yesterday.

Are you scared to say as much?

Can you think for yourself, or has the BBC PC agenda usurped all such rights now?

the mods are scared they have to research the word bum-cake and make sure it doesnt have an offensive meaning meanwhile i will explain, rio ferdinand would never racially abuse another person, especially whilst anton is mid-case. secondly the tight trousered fa found it racist as they have to, to cover their own backs. thirdly i believe there would be no chance JT would be let go anywhere in the world exept london, that is my point baggios.

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At 10:38 30th Sep 2012, Frank Black wrote:

@ 53 erumaegil

As it transpires, The FA increased Suarez ban because he is an International playing with a world famous football team, in order to make a point.
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I know Uruguay are a good team but I wouldn't call them world famous :-)

although manchester was a bad choice to use i wouldnt want him up my end.

@76

Ha Baggio, I was gonna wish you luck today in the big game. Think I will be shouting for Derby now ;)

@69
I agree, the FA should also clarify the Ferdinand fine. He re-tweeted a racially offensive tweet saying "I agree with that". Not in the heat of the moment, but in a considered fashion. He could have ignored it, or said "you can't say that".

The FA clearly agreed there was an offence, or they wouldn't have fined him.

by saying JT's actions were bad but wasnt he good in the game means you may as well say, hitler was despicable but his mustache was something to really behold and he always looked sharp. - nobody should be forgiven their actions so lightly, im fed up of being, "british" (by this i mean PC and always mindful of others) god beeb grow some nuts, phil you hinted at your distain for the chap but that really isnt enough stand up and say NO!!

@75

So you are sayimg that ferdinand was found guilty of racism by FA becoz they "had to"?
1. For racism suarez 8 match ban
2 JT 4 match ban.

You are complaoning JT got away.

Now could your esteemed knowledgable self please explain to us all peasants why after being found guilty of racism by FA as u said.. Has ferdinand not got a single match ban? Please grace us with your wonder answer

because it wasnt racist and they knew it, please answer why terry only got 4 and why FA gave suarez 8? love to hear from you :)

@ PragueImp

Everton as Chelsea's main title challengers!!
Behave mate!! We're about 5 games in!!!

i speak a different verbal to my peers my peers and i speak english but the evolved variant conotations are there to see for e.g: the word blood- meaning red stuff that carries oxygen to you or me (abreiviated explanation). meaning mate, friend, chum, fella to a certain age group. the word choc-ice, meaning ice cream to me and the rest of the world until RF retweeted in context of a put down, then means racial slur to the world.
Indepth enough.
different variables mean we could never assotain the context that tweet was meant in. EVER.

the word choc-ice, meaning ice cream to me and the rest of the world until RF retweeted in context of a put down, then means racial slur to the world.
Indepth enough.
different variables mean we could never assotain the context that tweet was meant in. EVER.
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thats why the FA couldnt stick a match ban on it as it isnt as easy to assotain the words meaning as it is the words terry or suarez used.

@83,
one things for sure though, city wont be a challenge!

Ignoring the central issues bought up in the case as only those on the pitch who heard the comments and the context they were used in will know the truth I would be suprised if after all these years and the nationality & ethnic background of the players he has played with & against something would have come out by now? This is NOT an apology for the words he admits to using but the context was the defence??
As a player JT is limited but like Beckham made the best of his ability, obviously a good Captain I wonder what the truth is in the rumour that the FA asked his council to put the case back so he was available for the Euros? Be interesting to see if that come up if he appeals?

One thing I've noticed as a Chelsea supporter at Stamford Bridge is that anytime an ex player or manager etc returns, he is treated with respect and applauded for his previous service. Arsenal are peevish, jealous and mindless and have bought into negative hype from the media.
Chelsea hve been hounded in the media since Abramovich took over, why? He 's Russian and Rich and that doesn't sit well with Anglo-American interests at acorporate level. All you have to do is look at the furore behind Terry and Bridge and yet Giggs went almost unreported for allegedly being a serial cheater within his own extended family and beyond.
Simply go to collective news feed for United and compare it to Chelsea's and look at the difference in negativity overall. It is quite revealing.
Chelsea led by Terry have challenged the old order and come through with a series of trophies including the Champions league. It ires Arsenal that they are impotent as a major force, United can't monopolize the league and Liverpool are a shadow of what they were 20 years ago and hanging onto the past like a clingy child.
City and Chelsea have made the premier league an open league and that's why it is so entertaining. I've never seen John Terry walk around a pitch mouthing off to an opponent throughout a game until he gets an angry response. Anton you are a coward as is your brother. Terry can never be accused of that and racism is nothing to do with it, you are what you are.

Stay tuned.

Facts:

1. Charge by the FA is for using any terms referring to another persons ethnic origin /race / color
2. Another ground is to use such reference in an insulting manner

Suarez:
He made reference to color and race. He was claimed to have usedd it insultingly and he was claimed to have done it 8 times. That is why 8 match ban.

Terry:
He has been charged for reference to ethnic origin and color. He has "not" been charged with using it insultingly as he has been acquitted by a court of law. So 4 matches.

Ferdinand:
He has made reference to race and has also meant it as an insult to ashley for his testimony. 45k fine? Why? FA did not "have to" charge him for racism Mr Zboy.. He was blatantly racist.

Joey Barton keep your nose where it belongs, on your thick head which is better off where it always has been...firmly shoved up your....

This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

Just like I suspected my earlier comment waz removed for breaking house rules(truth hurt they say)
Well, JT is a role model
Best center half in d uk
A leader by example
Just can't put a foot wrong
Want to b just like him wen I grow up
HAPPY NOW???

"Terry:
He has been charged for reference to ethnic origin and color. He has "not" been charged with using it insultingly as he has been acquitted by a court of law. So 4 matches. "

I'm amazed they haven't signed you up to write the FA report.

Laughable.

I am not a fan of FA anymore then most on here but their respective punishments of Suarez and Terrry are not, on the face of it, inconsistent.

Suarez was found guilty of using insulting language with reference to race seven times. This of course was ludicrous as there was ZERO evidence, other then that of the accuser, that he committed the offence more than once. Regardless of this once they came to this conclusion, the punishment had to be comparable. With Terry he was found to have committed the offence just once.

On the different sizes of the fines I can only presume they took their respective wages into account but, either way, I don't think it really makes much difference to Terry whether it was 40 grand or 220 grand!

@93

My above post is "my" view based on various reports and the facts surrounding the case. As you are aware the written report is not out yet. But I have a feeling one of those above mentioned wud be FA's umbrella for 4 matches and not 8.

I would rather write Rio's FA report. Any chance you can get me.in on that?

LondonsFinestClub

You appear to have very limited experience of other league grounds judging by your earlier comments regarding the treatment of players returning or otherwise to previous clubs. Fans always try to wind up and hurl abuse at players who can hurt them or they feel betrayed by. The reaction of some of the Neanderthals at the bridge to situations or players they dislike is testatment to that. Unfortunately football fans are not renowned for balance or neutrality when it comes to comments about their beloved team. Your remarks on the financing of Chelsea being a case in point, the reason for others distaste for "Financial Doping" of football clubs is that it gives that club a distinct advantage over their rivals. The same applies to MU fans reaction to how Citeh are currently performing. As one of your previous teachers might have remarked about your input here, "disappointed with your contribution".

Apologies to the mods for the above comment for mr barton. I was 50/50 if the hiding i was writing up wud pass. I guess not. Totally understand and will keep it in mind. Leason learnt as i am new to this blog.

Mr Barton, please take a view at what all things u have done before u say anythong to anyone. If u do not find videos pleasr let me know thru this blog i will ensure u get ur hands on them.

I get the impression people are overly confident about Chelsea. Would this article have been as positive if Chelsea hadn't managed to win? This comment is relevant because Chelsea were lucky to have won. Our goals came from Arsenal errors and we could have conceded more.

In the first half Chelsea did dominate possession but they didn't actually look that dangerous. Indeed, I felt as if Arsenal looked the more potent. Chelsea's goals came from two fouls committed by Varmaelan, that lead to two mistakes by the other CB, Koscielny- the second of which was particularly lucky. Beyond these events I can't think of many clear cut Chelsea chances, except for when Torres stole the ball off Koscielny (another arsenal mistake) but entirely missed the ball with an air shot (the second time this has happened in consecutive premier league games). This by the way, is another reason why I feel people are overly positive about Chelsea. One cannot compete successfully on four fronts with one striker (sturridge is currently injured) who sadly isn't the player he used to be, at the moment.

Everyone seems to think our pivot was fantastic. It wasn't, Mikel wasn't bad and nor was Ramires but they are not a championship winning pivot. They cannot control a game. Indeed, Chelsea have scored in nearly every game in a very rushed counter-attacking style but I haven't seen Chelsea control a game except for by parking the bus. This was evidenced in the second half where we could easily have conceded to a rampant arsenal. We parked the bus and counted our lucky stars, though Robbie does seem to have a lot of these, it won't work for ever. Furthermore, David Luiz, though a crowd favourite, isn't playing that well and Chelsea would be far better served having the more reliable Cahill guarding Cech.

Chelsea aren't doing badly at all and are showing great potential but their frailties are being exposed when they come up against strong opposition like Manchester City, Juventus and Athletico Madrid. 9 goals were conceded in these games and only one point achieved. Reading scored two against us. We parked the bus against Wigan when we went two up and, if Wigan had a striker or two who could finish, they would have scored. Furthermore, they don't always look that likely to score. We just managed a goal against Stoke and we didn't manage to score against QPR.

My point? Chelsea are a work in progress with great potential but they don't look assured enough and unless they don't learn to control games better and concede less, then they won't carry on winning through to May 2013.

23.At 00:32 30th Sep 2012, BaggiosPonytail wrote:
I find golf quite relaxing to watch, it's easy to dip in and out of it.
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I was not relaxed , I was glued to the tv on tenterhooks for the 5 hour afternoon session.
What about Poulter , 5 birdies in the last 5 holes to win the match. I cannot remember ever seeing such a sporting display of skill , passion , and pride , even the Americans appreciated it at the finish.

A well written review of the game and the impact of participating players, those in the wings, managers and owners. What a pity many of the postings drifted from the plot.