Friday 2 July 2010

#37

Precisely, Ecolizzy..

deposed /if you spell it in reverse order/ and still b.....ing. A 'fine' exammple for the young, ain't??

mim

WEIRD

I have always felt government should be barred from taking a side in a referendum (like company employees are ruled out, in a cornflake-packet competition).

Now that 'government' will be taking opposite sides, I don't know what to think.

Oh - it's all going awfully well.

to add to the injuries my bike and I suffered in the RTA on Sunday, when I went to the Police Station yesterday to retrieve my vehicle, there was a poster of the stocky/fat moustachioed Stalin stuck to the board pointing his rigt pointer. Not that it upset me all that much but it just goes to show how his English impersonator has managed to infiltrated this potentially great country anc 'aiding' it through the previous Labour governemnt to the current mess that it finds itself in.

Why isn't he cut off, may I ask? Is everybody relying on me to do the job? Is it that fascinating to watch?

mim [Personal details removed by Moderator]

#3 addendum

whatever 'stalin', 'hitler' and all the moustachioed envoys he sends, I hereby declare, he's not getting it in real life, not even a shred of sympathy or understandong he's so desperate to be 'awarded' by myself whatever further pretentious torture he resorts to and however many more people in high places he /db dragging his 'collleague' jgr with him/ 'succeeds' to fool, miserable so & si..

mim

Fully OT, so the irony is not lost on me, but I am intrigued as to how some of my posts do get modded under this catch-all, when others seem to be fine though, as far as I can see, they often refer to people and posts from what appears to be another, pretty much untraceable, dimension.

On the referendum I am hoping the rules on what will be voted would allow the Lib Dems to say what they believe in PR and why - but AV is a good step forward at this time.

If they don't then it all becomes farcical as everybody knows that they would accept AV but want PR.

It will also be interesting to see how Labour copes as it has MP's who won't take kindly to a whip on an issue that they believe in strongly.

If it looks as though the Lib Dems will win and the Tories recant via a rebellion then they would run the risk of looking dis-honourable.

I also seem to recall that there was a ComRes poll after the election that suggested seventy odd per cent of the public would like fairer voting.

If that is not a blip then MP's may think twice about revolt.

If the number of seats is to be reduced into one size units then I would have thought a lot of Tory MP's may feel they have nothing to lose and that would lead to a revolt.

Perhaps they will think again on PR as they are finding in this short period where the honeymoon never even started that actually coalitions when they happened are not that bad.

I thought last nights piece on repealing stupid laws was a bit contrived.

There could be things that may not be significant in themselves but signal cultural change.

For instance I believe that if I wrote a book on the merits of the UK becoming a Republic it would be illegal to publish it.

That infringes human rights and democratic rights and its stupid as the monarchy already has a great deal of influence available to put its case on any matter as Prince Charles demonstrated via the Chelsea Barracks saga.

So it won't be repealed and the real issues of a classless society and a reformed Lords and how it will relate to the Commons if largely elected with different party balances will become a testament to centuries of British political inertia.

On police cuts from memory I seem to recall that some offers were making a small fortune if they even got an arranged deliberate call when they were off duty. They have always been quite keen on their overtime.

That sort could be cut in a flash.

I am taking it for granted that Yates of the Yard would get extra budget if an al Qaeda cell was found to be on the brink of an attack.

But it does sound as though £87 million is a bit steep of the London anti-terror budget.

On the other hand Maude has a point in that if Yates suggested they could make £50 million in cuts then maybe they have a second round of negotiations.

I hope common sense prevails and I assume it will.

I have always been against biofuels on the grounds that it will lead to more of the Amazon being ripped up and it caused disruption in food supplies.

However Johann Hari has an interesting piece that suggests that in fact the dread derivatives market expanded into food due to the real estate market collapse and the deregulation of the food market and was hence the culprit.

"They started to buy massive amounts of derivatives based on food: they reckoned that food prices would stay steady or rise while the rest of the economy tanked. Suddenly, the world's frightened investors stampeded onto this ground and decided to buy, buy, buy.

So while the supply and demand of food stayed pretty much the same, the supply and demand for contracts based on food massively rose - which meant the all-rolled-into-one price for food on people's plates massively rose. The starvation began."

The OECD did not think the index funds caused the problems.

"Professor Ghosh points out, some vital crops are not traded on the futures markets, including millet, cassava, and potatoes. Their price rose a little during this period - but only a fraction as much as the ones affected by speculation. Her research shows this speculation was "the main cause" of the rise."

Surely that must be worth a Newsnight piece sometime? Perhaps it is already in the pipeline.

A mind boggling day for derivatives that I hope our own coalition will take account of in reform.

In the Huff Post a piece on the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission:

The Goldmans executive 'insisted that it is absolutely technically impossible for Goldman to provide the FCIC with any information regarding Goldman's derivatives revenues, profits or losses, because the company just doesn't organize its finances that way. And what's more, it has no way of tracking or adding up the revenues from individual derivatives contracts.

"Are you telling me you have no system at your company that tracks revenues under contracts?" FCIC Chair Phil Angelides demanded. To the astonishment of everyone in the room, Viniar insisted that the answer to this question was yes.'

I always thought that they did not really understand the derivatives that they sold and I also thought they would be quite amoral but even I always assumed that as bankers they would at lest have a stab at adding and subtracting.

These people are still loose on the markets.

#3 & #4

The 'poster' is also displayed, which I've previously written about, in the NHS hospitals, as well as on Paxo's Google image stream. Is it supposed to be 'funny', some kind of a joke?

Is anyone aware of any copies being displayed in the Houses of Parliament or around the BBC, I wonder?

mim

If the BNP are taking on new members in defiance of the EHRC injunction due to their racial membership rules is that likely to see fines or could it be custodial sentences?

Its bizarre that a "modern and progressive" party that is "not a Nazi party" seems to find it so difficult to come to terms with racial equlaity law.

Will they ever offer a coherent basis for their refusal to comply?

Then again does 99% of the public care so its hardly worth a Newsnight piece I suppose.

summer loveIN

I'm in Nude for Love

Spoke 2 A Mate who Mucks about with oil,He informs me that the Oilrig in the Gulf was american and hired/rented by BP plus 3/4 other us Coys.

If I Rant/Rent/Hire A Car from Youracar/eurocar or in my case Cheepo car rent very ltd and it blows up on the M2 leaving an Oil sLick

would that be my fault - the cars fault - the hire car coys fault

easy init lieing lawyers rub hands with glee

The statement from the Turdsuban/tallyban Turds for short.(useless type)

they are doing o so well killing the innocents/children/women/music lovers/etc

Moronic would not b the word, The Boys from 2 & 3 + support will be coming 2 see them.

no word from the press on how many turds have been BINned flushed away 2 include so called briturds

laws 2b binned the 3000 dozy blair/nulabour brought in.

had a need this last 2 year's 2 use the NHS (No complaints A Lot of Praise)

A sighn outside one hosp this is A non Smoking area, very handy sign 2 lean on whilst haveing A tab/fag/smoke/cancer stick/rolly

how much did/do them signs cost the dozy taxpayer and who was the idiot who came up with thatwonderfull plan, back Slapping Hard well done jobsworth idiot

fleece them there taxpayers shiney arse

UK government’s experiment asking the little people what laws they want repealed results in people demanding that the Digital Economy Act be scrapped!

'Too funny? Of course, the government will not allow the people freedom from cartels and monopolies, so I doubt the people’s wishes will be heard. I predict that this little experiment in talking to the little people will be scrapped.'

https://maxkeiser.com/2010/07/02/uk-governments-experiment-asking-the-people-what-laws-they-want-repealed-results-in-people-demanding-that-the-digital-economy-act-be-scrapped/

I'm in the Nude/Mood for Love or was it cheese and violence

The Gear at the Top, Where can I get Arse Biscuits and or A Reliant Robin and or A Bugatti Veron.

Have we ditched the human rights bull yet.
Lines in the Sand
There are persons? within these tiny islands that don't deserve 2 be ear and A FundiMental uman Right is we should be Able 2 Boot them out.
The Damage and Cost is 2 much, mind u I don't pay for their like
the doo gooder's have heart in the right place brain's if any in the wrong.

human wrong liars/lawyers lovely jubbly dozy taxpayers dosh

Do you reckon you could master Jafaican Allan?

https://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/65335,news-comment,news-politics,london-cockney-accent-will-be-gone-in-30-years-replaced-by-jafaican

Have we ditched the human rights bull yet. Nah it'll never happen! Have you noticed none of those HR lawyers are british?

is that suit new....cos it looks shiney

#17: that was also my first thought after the report.

it has been shown repeatedly that the most copied media is *exactly* the same media that gets most purchased. People watch the low-res versions, and then want the proper DVD - *if* they can afford it.

what the monopolist Meeja distributors want to avoid is the citizenry being able to avoid buying the complete donkeys the corporate Meeja spew out on a hideously regular basis. Artists like Lilly Allen should realise that file-sharing is the best way her profile can go international - the good artists/film-makers need no defence against sharing, for their work will stand the test of time, and will still be bringing in royalties in the long-term.

if file-sharing is prevented, then it is MOST UNLIKELY all the people will rush out to buy the CDs they had low-fi mp3s of - there IS no "lost market".

this is just corporates hoping to maintain their enormous profit margins on over-priced tat, by preventing the public from sampling the music/films first.

make good products, and people will buy them. Countries that DO put restrictions n sharing will find their music scene falling rapidly behind other countries - because the Creatives will no longer have easy access to the ideas and creations of others.

--but try explaining THAT to a corrupt politician receiving large back-hander campaign contributions from the corporate Meeja.


/AV/STV/PR - someone wants a mountain bike to go riding through the woods, and they get offered *one* roller-skate-boot instead.

do they take the roller-skate as it is "better than nothing", and the generous donor can then say "wish granted", or do they ignore such a pathetic offering, and continue to aim for the mountain bike?

time will tell.

but btw, the best method of getting more women MPs etc into Parliament, is to have an electoral system that allows a larger constituency to elect multiple MPs, and also allowing voters to choose specific MPs. This reduces the *incredible* problem of centralised, Party control over constituency selections in our current electoral system, where totally unsuitable candidates are forced upon constituencies, because of Central Party Dictat - often because the candidate is desired for ideological reasons, instead of any relevance to the local voters concerns.

but PR is not on the table - perhaps because these self-proclaimed "Modernisers, Decentralists" are actually old fashioned centralists who LIKE having total control over their Parties? And perhaps all that pre-election rhetoric about "CHANGE, CHANGE AND CHANGE" was about as honest as Murdoch's tax-records?

The Tories should realise that without electoral reform, it is VERY unlikely their Govt Partners are going to win many seats in the coming election - or is their hope that as long as Labour elect a nuLabour leader anyway (which is 4 out of the 5), it really doesn't matter if they lose the next election back to nuLabour, as the policies won't change jack, and the rich (them) will continue to get rich, whilst the poor (us) will watch our living standards fall even further?

in fact, with new Tory initiatives such as Cameron's apology to Ireland, and Clarke's realistic and humanistic change in Prison policy from punishment to rehabilitation, such a move to PR would make it *more* likely they would be able to keep their feet in the Corridors of Power!


-why are there so many ignorant fools in Parliament, who only know the Meeja clichés on political realities, and seem to have no capability to think things through for themselves?

BBC claim not wearing a helmet is illegal


https://road.cc/content/news/19309-bbc-claim-not-wearing-helmet-illegal

more social engineering? helmets are for those who bounce down mountains not people doing 6mph to the shop.

#19

You seem to be playing with fire Ecolizzy, and a ckver one at that. If not for the young ines, you might be burning by now, Capice?

mim

#21 Houaey

don't you get it yet who is/will be the biggest fiil to be exposed soom if not you? Nothing's giing to help you niw, you've overestimated yourself at many a level, ha, ha, ha, ha.

#24 correction

it should read 'fool' in the opening phrase

referendum: it has been tied in with *guaranteed* boundary changes in the Tories favour (whether or not the AV system gets accepted), corrupting it as an honest proposal.

It is also about a choice between two almost equally undesirable possibilities, AV or current FPTP system, this *means* that the Public are supposed to be getting all hot and bothered choosing between something they wouldn't choose given a wider choice!

a completely false and misdirection argument, to deliberately confuse the Public.

Also to give the Public a feeling of having *some* control over politics - yet in reality the choice is worthless (like only being able to choose between voting for the Tories or nuLabour - with no other choices available!!), because there is very little difference between them, as we all know.


World Cup:
the reasons other countries develop better football; one of the reasons is that *our* kids are spending more time learning *other* skills! In poverty areas, even having a football is a great way of spending time in childhood, whereas many Western children spend their time learning to net surf and peer-community. These are extra layers of normative socialisation for UK children, which take time children from poorer/less connected society can spend playing football - if they can afford one.


what Africa has truly gained is that so many African children saw African football taken with respect - they saw the powerful images of happy African crowds, happy *despite* the poverty and the lack of REAL development since the ANC joined the Govt, and from the hosting of the World Cup itself, a people just *happy* for the event, and the civic pride it inspired. This was an awesome event for Africa, and Ghana's incredible success was icing on the Cake. It would have been a FANTASTIC ending to have England play Ghana! :D


maybe one of the lessons to learn from this in that in the London Olympics, there should be large scale use of cooperative ventures between the groups who for instance put on Notting Hill Carnival, or the 'Free Party' crowd to organise events for the Olympics - demonstrating, with little central coordination, the incredibly diverse, decentralised, and creative Culture the UK is now. It would also demonstrate in practice *actual* Democracy, people actively organising themselves.

we're not China, not only couldn't we afford the budget that huge Nation can easily expend, we should also be demonstrating that in the UK, we are NOT a uniform ballet machine organised from the centre, but a democratic, diverse nation where the Public can organise themselves for fantastic displays and parties without Govt control.

Decentralise. Humanise. Democracy. And Africa should be proud of its achievements!! :D

#23 further corrections

it should be soon not soom & now not niw

#19: i spent most of my childhood in southern Sussex, and it was not until i was 17 that i heard my first native Sussex accent. I asked where it was from! The South East was populated by massive emigration from London, and the local accents largely died out. The current 'South East' regional accent is almost pure 50s/60s/70s 'Gangsta' London - just like the bloke who was Kenyan origin and liked Enoch Powell in the recent report. This is just 'wide-boy' speak, almost identical in every UK city amongst that sub-culture, in his case also elements of Jafaican and English-moslem culture.

he has already become integrated into a particular English and UK sub-culture!

this can be seen on Question-Time, again and again. Clear immigrants, who also obviously 'different', have adopted English/Welsh/Scottish/Irish/British identities and patterns of behaviour, and speak, move, think, debate - almost entirely as aboriginal natives do. (us that are born here).

our Culture is strong, and People want freely to enter and join it. It was a dark moment last night when the Tory minister openly boasted that a Tory Govt was so appallingly bad that under their Previous administration there was net EMIGRATION, as people fled the terrible conditions. Who boasts about terrible policy results, and doesn't spot the irony of finding such a result, life for People being so bad they become economic refugees FROM the UK something positive to cheer about?

"Have you noticed none of those HR lawyers are british?"

there are *MANY* excellent British UK Human Rights lawyers, there was one on QT a week or so ago. And if a person in versed in UK Law, then they ARE lawyers in the UK system, no matter their colour, or place of birth.


mim - my greatest problem is that i have nearly always *underestimated* myself. But i am not "Jaded-Jean".

#24: mim, your laugh - have you watched 'austin power' recently? x

mim, sorry to hear about your accident. Hope you heal quickly, and i would request all of my minions in the NHS administration to stop putting this poster up. I've never seen it myself, but it seems to be causing distress to some members of the Public.

this is, of course, not an order, but it would be appreciated if you complied.


me.



BB. x

#28

you don't seem to comprehend the concept of self-criticism, whatever you say or do, mousey

there's no fooling me

#31: perhaps you could be more specific about what particular area of self-criticism? You spray so many accusations apparently at random, and with my obvious desire to *avoid* using irony that could be misunderstood in the reply to you, makes answering much of what you say extremely difficult.

i also suspect that is, at least on some levels, entirely intentional on your part.

but at least your emotion appears honest, no matter your words. If, through all your misdirection, it does indeed turn out that i deserve it, then i apologise from the core of my being. I wish that it had never happened, and that for whatever it was, that i have done enough good deeds for you to forgive me.


and i am *not* jaded jean. And i wonder if i misjudged gangy. I'm still reading. Keep writing??

what good deeds?

i don't want anything from you, anyway

#21 correction: "Punishment to Rehabilitation", should be "Revenge to Rehabilitation". For many, if not most, of the offenders will find actually meeting those they harmed, and apologising in person, far more of a punishment than the 'revenge'-motivated short prison spell that is perhaps better than the poverty-stricken ghetto-life they were forced to lead. At least they get still food when their money runs out! And no - quite different from Tabloid BS, most prisoners do NOT get PS3s in ther cells!!

...but *Apologising*, that is a REAL punishment, and the harm to the Ego in favour of a more balanced approach in the psyche more likely - this is why the re-offending rates are far lower.

--you would expect re-offending rates to be lower in the most effective punishment system - prison gives an 80% re-offence rate, Clarke's new system has been shown to give a much lower 33% - or lower. So which is the best detterent?

Clarke has come up with a *fantastic* policy - and little doubt had a hard time getting it through this Cabinet. But he achieved it, and has forced (through Collective Responsibility) his fellow Tory and LibDem ministers to accept and defend the policy! What *more* Wonders can be produced?!! :o

my words balamce very well with my emotions, just like in dancing, including on ice

it would take somebody arrogant and 'big' headed ti question my capabilities of verbal expression

#35:

"it would take somebody arrogant and 'big' headed ti question my capabilities of verbal expression "

you are very probably correct, but i request clarification anyway. ♥

"my words balamce very well with my emotions, just like in dancing, including on ice"

no disagreement there. See previous.

#34

short you say? I'd think again, if I were you. And deprived of all the links to crown the outcome. You're becoming far too bothersome, not just to myself. There's no way I would ever wish to accept an apology from you, anyway. Just as well I've seen the light shining through the cracks.

(^_^)(^_^)(^_^)(^_^)

#36

I'd leave the heart out, if I were you. I don't think you comprehend the metaphorical meaning of it, apart from self-protection that you seem to be playing with but it seems to me it's going to burn in hell.

#37 addendum

some of your 'actions' and treatment of others have been simply and squarely unacceptabble, as far as I'm concerned.

such as?

#38 addendum

you're not after my heart anyway but the dosh you've tried so hard to make out of me, stingy mousey, but I'm making sure you're never going to get it

(^_^)(^_^)(^_^)(^_^)

#28 Ahh, MH you ought to meet me then I have a Kentish accent, and so do most of my family. I agree with the article the people I now meet in Kent all have cockney accents, they've all moved out of London. Although in the Medway towns, much closer to London, they all speak south London, and emulate that culture. I suppose what you call gangsta, but I haven't heard much elsewhere. But then I am old.

My sister lives in Sussex, I have heard the accent there, but as you say not often. I believe all the rich business commuters, moved to that part of the world.

I wouldn't agree that our culture is strong, it's being rapidly eroded this had a lot of support from the labour government. People are frightened to say they are english, it's not cool is it?

I find the only reason people want to come here is because they can get money, be it from work, or benefits. Otherwise why are there only 900 british people working on the Olympic stadium, and 6,500 thousand foreign workers.

Every time I see or hear an HR lawyer they are foreign, perhaps it's just the news and programmes I attend to. By the way I think that law is an ass, it always seems to work against the majority, and has been freely used by criminals and terrorists alike. Law appears to be open to many interpretations, often in the criminals favour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/7867422/The-EUs-response-to-global-warming-is-a-costly-mistake.html

ONLY THE STUPID SAY 'IT'S THE ECONOMY' - OR CO2 (#43)

'Chaos' and aberrant 'science' do not allow us to predict temperature. Two things are true: climate will change, and humanity will adapt (if at all possible). One thing is false: economic manipulation is not the answer.

Modern man is not physiologically or psychologically equipped for wholesale survival - probably just as well. Any major shift will clobber most (or all) of us.

#33: don't see much "good" coming from you. Sorry about your schizophrenia, but apart from ice-skating and talking to random people, all you seem to do is post hateful snidely comments on the Beeblog, in some fictitious 'combat' that exists in your mind. I feel sorry for you, but i wouldn't want to meet you. Hope you get better. x


#42: in my entire life i have never seen "English" as 'cool' as it is now. The sheer number of English flags everywhere has gone quite far into the territory of embarrassment for over-Nationalism - i've always been proud we Brits don't wave nationalism and flags in everyone's faces, compared to other countries.

and then there is the thousands of bloggers who run around whining about the lack of an "English Parliament", as if it makes ANY sense to have another Parliament that covers 85% or more of the same population as Westminster.

in fact, i'd say there has been an explosion of English nationalism, which thankfully has not exploded into the violence that other countries have, such as Kyrgyzstan, - and even has strong elements of the very multi-culturalism it claims to be opposed to.

far from "being English isn't cool" - Englishness hasn't been this cool for *centuries*!


"I find the only reason people want to come here is because they can get money"

no, it most certainly is not. I meet foreigners living here every day, and *everyone* i meet is interested in UK Culture, in speaking better english, in enjoying the experience they are having here, whether that is short-term, long-term or permanent.

English/UK Culture is MOST CERTAINLY not crumbling - in every cultural field we are one of the most creative, vibrant, confident and admired Cultures in the World! Yes we are changing, and there are some strong negative forces that need healing and reintegrating in our Culture, but the potential for England, and the United Kingdom, have rarely been greater.

in times of change, individuals can either try to cling to old patterns, usually ending up attached to some reactionary revolutionary movement, or else they can grasp the nettle of change fully, and work to improve what the Future might bring.


"Every time I see or hear an HR lawyer they are foreign, perhaps it's just the news and programmes I attend to. By the way I think that law is an ass, it always seems to work against the majority, and has been freely used by criminals and terrorists alike. Law appears to be open to many interpretations, often in the criminals favour."

yes, i'm afraid that DOES depend upon what media you watch/read. The corporate meeja has had a very strong role in building up the wars the UK is in right now, and through stoking up discontent and racism against minority groups that happened to be of the same ethnicity of the populations 'we' were bombing tried (mainly unsuccessfully) to demonise the 'Other in our Midst'. The reporting that still goes on is so incredibly skewed and biassed, and there is absolutely NO censure for such behaviour, that it is easy for the Meeja to be presenting events as always being in the 'best interests of the criminals and minorities' - this is absolute garbage.

UK human rights lawyers have been fighting the UK Govt on a range of attacks upon UK civil liberties, from freedom of association (criminal justice act), to simple rights of trial (anti-terror legislation), and the right NOT to be tortured in superpower psychological-warfare experimental camps. Some probably are foreign, but then British HR lawyers are also active across the entire world, and highly respected for their work.

in any rational, sensible discussion about the direction of the Human Race should go in, surely Human Rights are at the absolute core of that discussion? What is the point, otherwise? Would you rather live in a feudal society run entirely for the benefit and enrichment of Corporate Lords with no environmental, no employment, no social-safety net rights? Do you want to live in a Country the Govt can remove ANY rights it wants from the populace at whim? Where you can be accused of a thought-crime without any evidence, kidnapped and locked away for months with any amount of psychological torture at the hands of your interrogators, without access to legal representation, or even to know what you have been charged with?

where citizens are followed, and their friends investigated and harassed, because you are committed to peace?

https://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/25/peace-campaigner-classified-domestic-extremist

https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/jul/03/police-surveillance-peaceful-protesters-catts

these are rights we have fought long centuries to achieve, and rights that prevent a Continental/US style fascist corporate state controlling the UK - and us.

human rights may sometimes be used to defend those we may dislike - but at the end of the day, those Human Rights are OUR Human Rights, and those lawyers are fighting to ensure OUR freedoms, and the rights and freedoms of the generations to come.

and frankly, as long as they do their job properly, and their hearts and minds are in the right place, i couldn't give a fig *where* they were originally from. I would prefer a wizened Australian Aboriginal who barely speaks a word of English, but who is fighting for the Ancient Rights of the British People, rather than a purer-white-than-white Southern Counties public-school educated snotty nosed Nazi trying to enact legislation that prevents the Public from freely protesting against the Govt policies.

i don't mix 'race' and 'morality/ethics', you see. In fact, if i look through my life, i can *certainly* say that although i have had my share of bad experiences, without a SHADOW of a doubt the worst, the deepest, and the most vindictive behaviour i have experienced came from white, southern English males.

And i have experienced kindness from people from all over the globe (including white, southern English males!). Skin colour has no effect upon the worthiness of a person.


#44: depends how well prepared, organised and cooperative we are about facing the problems of the future. imho.


#41:

"but the dosh you've tried so hard to make out of me, stingy mousey, but I'm making sure you're never going to get it"

darn, and there i was about to serialise "The Story of Mim" in the Sun newspaper. Oh well. :'(

lizzy: so the new "Men's Hour" presenter is "the campest man on TV"? Oh joy. I look forward to hearing any new "Women's Hour" presenter to be a butch, men-hating Lesbian for the interests of "balance".

well, at least i know now there is yet another programme that i will avoid!!


but the actual concept has possibility, imho.

TURKEYS WILL NEVER SEEK TO IMPLANT COMPETENCE IN BATTERY HENS (#45)

Among mature individuals, humanity of action should arise spontaneously. Codified 'Human Rights', need only be installed to constrain the immature.

Benign governance would strive to uplift every birth to its highest 'potential of being' (as opposed to 'functionality in doing' - as now). Individual maturity is key.

Westminster is not benign.

In passing, MH, is not the lauding of our 'triumphant dead' (mercenaries) by government, the height of nationalistic strutting? UK government is not content just to lie, cheat, deceive and rob us, it also waves our flag in the face of Johnnie Foreigner, ad nauseam - backed by every vile armament known to man (and, no doubt, a few we have not been told about).

Corrupt governance, plus schooling for Mammon, plus war used as casually a screw driver, to fix the world, plus money as an END IN ITSELF, plus politically bent 'science', will lead us nowhere good.

Psychologically we are in retreat, while government tinkers with third-order mechanisms.

Finally: any society that allows open sale of an addictive poison such as tobacco (while fighting a rear-guard action on behalf of its purveyors) wears that reality as a mark of its disgrace.

We have a long, long way to go.

IMHO (#46)

Not an acronym I know MH. What does the 'H' stand for again?

#47: barry,

"Among mature individuals, humanity of action should arise spontaneously. Codified 'Human Rights', need only be installed to constrain the immature."

agreed. *Especially* when those immature have wormed their way into 'power' over us, and are actively seeking to reduce the general maturity within our Society.

Rights are the codified restrictions upon abuse, exploitation, and the codified expressions of our aspirations, and beliefs in freedom.

"Benign governance would strive to uplift every birth to its highest 'potential of being' (as opposed to 'functionality in doing' - as now). Individual maturity is key.

Westminster is not benign. "

again, agreed.

"Finally: any society that allows open sale of an addictive poison such as tobacco (while fighting a rear-guard action on behalf of its purveyors) wears that reality as a mark of its disgrace."

actually, i'd say that a Society that can tolerate individual's free choice to be able to harm themselves, is a mark of that very "maturity" you were talking about. Once a Society decides it has the right to prevent individuals from doing activities that could cause harm to themselves, just about everything it wishes to can be banned. Where we fail with respect to tobacco etc, is having ludicrously over-zealous legislation with regards to other recreational substances, even preventing the essential knowledge about them that prevents harm, whilst still allowing promotion of tobacco and alcohol.

the "mark of disgrace" is the sheer amount of money and lives we waste in this socially destructive "War on Drugs". Yet another policy brought over the pond from the savage medieval Society on the other side.


#48: "humble". ...sometimes used with ironic intent! lol ;)

#45

what schizophrenia? yours?

Those I have healthy exchanges with think of me, and treat me accirdingly, as normal.

ON CHOOSING TO BE ADDICTED (#49)


HOOK LINE AND STINKER

An upright tobacconist from Crewe
Said: "Now you're 18, what you do,
Is smoke one cigarette
It'll hook you I bet
And WE'LL all make a bloody good screw."

14 warnings on the pack, but nothing about ADDICTION.

Brightyanghting

I've just checked what the weather us like up in Scotland and can see that it's not as good as dowm here, in London.

Hope you're having a reasonably good time nevertheless. either at home with the near and dear, or reading a book whike kistening ti some relaxing music or perhaps out & about in protective clothing and an umbrella.

mim

ON CHOOSING TO BE ADDICTED (#49)


HOOK LINE AND STINKER

An upright tobacconist from Crewe
Said: "Now you're 18, what you do,
Is smoke one cigarette
It'll hook you I bet
It’s what civilised democracies do."

14 warnings on the pack, but nothing about ADDICTION.

#50: good for them. May i assume that IRL you do not then give a constant stream of abuse to people on the street?

and if that IS the case, why do you do so here?


#53: oh, agreed, agreed. And i wouldn't be surprised if some drug company came up with a "solution" to nicotine addiction that not only costs the NHS far more than the original drug, but also has worse side-effects - and is also MORE addictive.

and then it will little doubt be forced upon prisoners in HMP, whether they want it or not. Its "all in their best interests".


but people get addicted to all sorts of stuff - take a 'normal' westerner, and remove all sugar from their diet for a week or more, and watch them go through (quite severe for many) withdrawal. Their phones. Their internet. Eastenders.

being forced (presumably through Helf N Safety) to put warnings about addictiveness on everything that *can* be addictive would be a tremendous waste of time and effort, and would further encroach the State into our daily lives.

as a late-comer to smoking, i can still remember the pleasure of NOT smoking, and i certainly wish i'd never started. And i certainly wish no-one else would fall prey to this horrible drug. But i also think that looking at the State as 'nanny' is not the best way forward. Definitely the State has a role to play in regulating, and protecting, and ensuring the rules are kept to, but it does seem to me that far too much of that regulation is upon normal citizens, and far too little regulation of those who profit from our exploitation. Banksters, media barons and the like.

it is citizens choice to get addicted to stuff if they want, that is part of the freedom that comes with being an adult in a democratic country. A sensible country would make normal Life so pleasant that substance use does not become substance abuse - and to put measures in place to help break any substance abuse cycle for any citizens that want it.

a sensible society would follow the practice of 'Decriminalise and Control', not only for the ENORMOUS tax benefits (and savings on Police time), but also to reduce the problems that come with the zero quality control that criminalisation brings with it. It would save hundreds of lives every year from overdoses, for instance.

but as i said, that is what a "sensible" society would do. Unfortunately, we are America's Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier, and our 'leaders' must kowtow to their bosses in Washington.

--to finish upon your own point though - note that tobacco is legal, and which country largely controls the tobacco trade!!

#54

cos you deserve it

and I'm sure that most of the world would agree with me if they knew all the details of what you've been up to, you decrepit bugger

Did anyone else notice that Germany wore black today?

PERSPECTIVE (#56)

Oh - were they the Germans?

Did any of them tweet during the game?

More psychobabble from the lunatic fringe. What on earth are you halfwits babbling about?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/23/AR2010042302220_pf.html

#55: do tell, i'm sure we are all breathless.

#60

speak for yourself = you may be, from your efforts leading nowhere

Gango

Look what I've found out of curiosity on the underground this morning whereby I peeked over an elegant lady's left shoulder reading an article in the Guardian by John Mullen entitled 'The Truth About Women' and illustrated by a painting. It turned out to be about Maria Edgeworth's novel 'Helen' and the painiting was to do with her family. Inspired by the article, which is available on the internet, I was curious enough to try and learn a bit more about the article's author and that's what I found as a consequence - his conversation with Martin Amis on a Nazi 'doctor'. It seems to speak volumes in the current 'climate experiments':

https://www.guardian.co.uk/books/audio/2010/feb/11/martin-amis-guardian-book-club

Thank you John Mullen and Martin Amis!!!!

mim

#61 correction

I got the spelling wrong of JM's name. Apologies.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/english/about/staff/jm

Womens KNickers , A Perfect Waste of Dozy Taxpayers bread
Are they SOILed... Over Ear Son On Me EAD

Bring Fourth the 2 PENcils.....It Works Everytime

Ah RubBER Wears the NOsetrils

getting back to some NEWS on this board ...

looks like the British Army is out of control. More failure by the officer class to ensure standards are kept as ..there are thousands of torture allegations being made by more than 100 Iraqi clients in new cases....

https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/03/abu-ghraib-baha-mousa

and nothing has yet been done about this

a former Royal Military Police (RMP) investigator claims there are hundreds of cases of abuse by British soldiers, involving death and serious injury, of Iraqi civilians which have never been dealt with or have been covered up.

Does it all go back to DeepCut?

HARD TO BELIEVE

The House of Commans has its own pastor.

IT DOESN'T SHOW IN THEIR GODLINESS!

Caught F.F. In the EX FRY RE the S.A.80 5.56 Of Coarse He is Right
5.56 deflected by A Blade of WEEd

A.K.OK butt 7.62 short

S.L.R. F.N. or my Preference The G3 All 7.62 LONG
You won B GETting UP after one them HITs You and or Screaming for A Mummy

Paywalls

https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/04/rupert-murdoch-paywall-times

i can get my news for free from outside the uk and often it is better and more informed about what is going on in the uk than the uk press that is obsessed with what celebrities 'think' or do or say.

paywalls need unique content. which means a return to investigative journalism. the telegraph could have made a bundle from a paywall over the mps expenses.

no one is going to pay for rehashed press releases as 'news' that 50 other outlets are doing. To survive websites have to pay but to do that they will need unique content.

the bbc should be behind a licencepayerwall. it is ripping off all those who pay for it thta millions of others can use it for free. That is unjust upon its payers. what other subscription service does that?

CULTURE OF VIOLENCE (#64)

Point well made Jaunty.

Johnnie Foreigner is still expendable rubbish. Those with a mind-set that absolves going to another's land to kill him, are hardly likely to hold the chap in high esteem. Brains don't function like that.

British pageantry is still 'military'. We have not changed since Corporal Jones 'did his bit'.

While the following pertains, nothing fundamental will change.

DOGS OF WAR

As war’s abrasion strips his fine veneer
man’s inhumanity his ilk defines.
Bi-pedal dog, scent-primed, unleashed, packed off
he brings a licking to some wrong-tongued foe.
While back in civvy-street, his leaders rise
short-slept from tasting civilized excess
this day newborn in sinless rectitude
to move their boarded pawns with gifted guess.
In blinkered ignorance of Conqueror’s Creed
that sets all free from hypocritic bond
war-leaders mire mere men in conflict’s slough
so deep Geneva’s spires are over-topped.
Unheeding they send mortal men to war
yet heed the call when time comes to deplore.

A word with the new Westminster pastor perhaps?

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ScarRed Scared of The Septicks Auntee

Jaunty #64 wants news.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/10464617.stm

Quel surprise. Bring Chris Woodhead out of retirement. I see no issue with cutting up to 40% on Public Sector budgets - dead wood. Only problem is how to adequately recycle the prunings.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/10500315.stm

Another ‘mad’ gunman on the loose. And just released from a short prison sentence. Cue the debate to more recent news on reducing numbers of those in prison and the balance between assessment and rehabilition vs just plain punishment and retribution.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10498441.stm

Another young life lost. A point of note is that the ‘special’ school contains mostly very troubled youngsters not wanted elsewhere. Remind you of anything? Another debate about ‘inclusion/exclusion’ then. Very grey. Dopes the word ‘Ghetto’ raise its head here.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10500419.stm

McChrystal – Patraeus.

A ‘modest military ceremony’ eh? Jolly Good. A clean seamless handover or a pile of new broom needing to make their mark and change for the sake of unsettling change? We await reports.

Oblivion #58 complains of Babbling halfwits, yet fails to add ANYTHING at all of note.

Read carefully and there are some topics well worthy of discussion buried amongst the psycho and other babble in many of the preceding posts.

I want Trumpelstiltskin’s phone number.

And........ in other news

• Scuffles at Katie Price’s church blessing. Hopefully these were with the ministers who actually allowed the woman to USE the church for yet another of her publicity stunts. Many people would have more respect for the established churches if they actually STOOD for anything. Maybe they needed a new roof!

• My suggestion about cuts for the NHS. FOOD. I could count a wastage - just of the actual ingredients let alone the staff to prepare, cook, serve, clear and MANAGE - of close to £100 on one ward of 4 over a 6 day period. Go Figure that over a year in the entire NHS.

Torture....are u taking the Michael The Brit army has its fair share of prawns BUT, in general, the squaddies are well trained, fair and up front. What the peacenic/whinging, "I`ll knock anything that is British" brigade conveniently forget, is that (for instance), when they slag off the brits for "torture" it normally refers to an incident where Iraqis were hooded and put under stress. Well lets remember that Iraqi torture to fellow Iraqis was where they were burnt with irons, had there eyes in some cases torn out, thrown off tall buildings whilst plasticuffed, blown up with hand grenades and in some cases, BURNED ALIVE.

But poor old Tommy Atkins gets hammered because he had the audacity to kick some stone throwing Iraqi kid up the arse! Where the hell is the comparison.

INSTITUTIONALISED INSTITUTIONALISM

When I was at school in 40s and 50s, most teachers were incompetent - often due to psychological flaws.

When my sons were at school (70s 80s) all parent knew which teachers were liabilities.

Schooling is institutional. First law of institution is 'Protect the 'Good Name' BY EVERY MEANS. But then - when governance has the same ethos, what will change?

COHERANCE R U (#72)

Yo d! Nice to be able to understand your post.

You write: "in general, the squaddies are well trained," my point exactly. They are TRAINED TO KILL JOHNNIE FOREIGNER. Surely those who are prepared to do so (even when directed by such aberrants as Blair) lack some deep-seated restraint in matters humanitarian?

Some people say their attack dog is a pooch. . .

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THE IRONY OF PROTECTING BLAIR WITH OUR MONEY

I suspect there is a 'real and present' threat to St Tony from the very taxpayers who are paying for that protection racket.

The whole Blair Saga is congealing into an Alice in Wonderland, surreal farce, that typifies the 'Age of Unreason' beautifully.

Why the Blair Phenomenon is not news, for Newsnight - who can tell? Perhaps the strange workings of Mark Thompson's mind, manifested in his choice of facial fuzz, plays some part?

Oh - it's all going awfully well.

#71

assessment and rehabilition vs just plain punishment and retribution

I couldn't disagree with you on that one but only in relation to the weak ones who didn't/don't anything better, i.e. poor ethically upbringing, lack of love and attention, etc, but not as far as highly educated parents scheming and reeling to make a name, and big bucks, for themselves through premeditated crime, stealing, cheating, lying and taking the mickey out of those who try their best to lead as normal lives as possible and out of those who've been elected via an imperfect perhaps but nevertheless widely accepted democratic process. I repeat, why are they not cut off from all their vile and unhealthy in every respect 'influence' so that they could spend the time that rests to them reflecting and mulling over their wrongdoings? It may prove beneficial not only to us, however you wish to interpret this, but to them as well.

mim

The Queen hails Canada's human rights commitment

says the bbc website and then gives some happy snaps.

the native tribes think canada has an appalling human rights commitment.

...Canada was given a failing grade on aboriginal human rights by First Nations groups protesting the G8/G20 economic summits.

Canada has failed, said Cathryn Mandoka, 59, of the Stoney Point First Nation near Sarnia. Canada gets an F....

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/827924--canada-flunks-on-indigenous-rights-protesters-say?bn=1

the queen calls canada a home from home. the native tribes would probably call canada a home from hell?

The Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples was adopted by the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 13, 2007 when 144 countries voted in favor, 11 abstained, and four countries voted against it – the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

The monarchists boast the monarch is more informed than most. So if she is aware of the continuing oppressions upon a whole class of people why does she ignore it?

in the uk it is illegal to suggest anyone else be head of state. where are our human rights? monarchy by its internal logic of privilege is opposed to human rights for all?

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#78
it should be 'who don't/didn't know anything better'

#79

Because

a) The Queen (British Royalty) has no ACTUAL power to do anything. Not even allowed to voice an opinion.

b) If she/they did, perhaps a different scenario; perhaps not.

Let’s see, just how many elected officials, business managers, Joe Public would willing wield the sword that cut of (or down) their support mechanism without being forced to? Erm, let me see – I think I have enough fingers to count them up. And would they be smart, decent and honest, or bleeding fools.

Let’s put this in plain English.

Say to a pen pushing civil servant, a classroom assistant, a media manager or any one of the myriad vague titles at the end of tv programmes, a golf course designer, a shop window dresser, a tennis development officer etc etc etc that their job was really rather pointless and see if they voluntarily say ‘Oh, ok then, I’ll just go then. Bye’ and walks off into the sunset happy as Larry.

I am no Monarchist/Royalist but nor am I a republican. Nothing is perfect. Cause and effect and forgetting what we know are terminal issues.

LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN.

A true life recent example.

Person A is a Male senior teacher (management). A widow who married a teacher in his school two years ago

Person B is the teacher he married - also a senior teacher(management).

Person C is a highly regarded excellent senior teacher (dept head) who gets real results in the classroom (Science)

Person D is a female Teaching Assistant.

person A has affair with person D

person B (and most of the local community) finds out and is understandably upset.

Person B, who is the boss of person C and jealous of person C's popularity at a time when she (person B) is in the limelight for all the wrong reasons makes life pretty unpleasant for Person C.

Person C takes a senior teacher (non management) in another school.

Persons A, B and D are still in their cosy little jobs in the local school (Senior). Persons A and B remain married.

Who are the Losers?????

The Pupils!!!!!!! Again.

Not judging the morals of these people though the phrase 'Cr*pping on own doorstep' springs readily to mind. But the 'closed shop ignore the real tragedy of the loss of someone widely recognised as an inspiration in the classroom.

It's little short of criminal negligence.

Oh, and hey guess what. The two senior teachers are long term 'buddies' of the Rector. And the local Director of Education is currently 'on compassionate leave' having been suspended over impropriety with a member of his team.


Oh, the future is oh so very very bleak.

I just wonder how Newsnight's Susan Watts feels about this story 7 years on...

David Kelly murdered? Yes, and I bet you believe in the tooth fairy too
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-kelly-murdered-yes-and-i-bet-you-believe-in-the-tooth-fairy-too-2017805.html

'I knew David rather well and I am firmly convinced not only that he committed suicide, but that those who believe in a cover-up have simply failed to produce a shred of primary-source evidence to support their claims.

I believe that David killed himself because he learned, a few hours before he took this fatal step, that lies he had told to investigating MPs on the Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on 15 July would be exposed. He had, foolishly, denied having contact with the BBC Newsnight journalist Susan Watts. She had taped the interview (for record purposes only) and the BBC was about to reveal this.'

#82

The Queen may not be allowed to voice an opinion availalbe to the public but surely She ought to be able to discuss things openly with the Prime Minister during their regular meetings. Or is it not the case, Brightyangthing?

Whether She is or not, I do find Her a very shrewed, and unpretentioously warm at the same time, communicator.

I have been 'drawing' quite a bit of encouragement and even support from Her in the last few years.

Thank you, Ma'am xxxx

mim

#47 barriesingleton

"Among mature individuals, humanity of action should arise spontaneously. Codified 'Human Rights', need only be installed to constrain the immature.

Benign governance would strive to uplift every birth to its highest 'potential of being' (as opposed to 'functionality in doing' - as now). Individual maturity is key.

Westminster is not benign. "

Yes you know what is coming.

You have been enthusiastic in the past about the postings of the National Socialist Jaded_jean.

Most on reflection would consider that the Nazis were not benign as atrocities were a trademark rather than an exception and there was the seventy odd million left dead by world war II.

Westminster has changed and will change because it is the expression of democracy and will correct its mistakes over time.

When people want to get shot of Westminster but don't indicate what they would replace it with its always time to ask questions.

#82 re: the last sentence

Precisely, Brightyangthing, terminal in the sense of all of us turning into dust sooner or later. If only people remembered it or accepted it as the inevitable end of their passage on this Earth, there should be less evil 'spurning' them on in unacceptable directions.

mim

#84

Juat goes to show who you're mixing with and where you belong. I know exactly who you are, there's no fooling me, fool..

#83

Whose future, BYT?

The teachers?

A lot of pupils, young people, though may be temporary losers, can be quite resourceful, and if they are determined enough, hopefully with some kind support, if not from their own families, then a sympathetic friend/friends, do not necessarily need to succumb to the malaise you're describing and their future may indeed be on the biright side.

mim

..Tony Blair's bodyguards are costing taxpayers £250,000 a year in expenses...

given many of his trips are personal money spinners why should he not pay towards the cost?

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10500996.stm

Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrC9pp1SHF4

Have a nice day!

SHERLOCK HOLMES MIGHT LOOK ASKANCE (84 link)

The lack of fingerprints should be duplicated with simple testing. If random individuals, simulating the cut, can do so without leaving a trace on a duplicate knife, it would be persuasive.

I note the 'Independent' article is by a friend. Kelly's relationship with Mai Pederson would bear more scrutiny, but what friend would suggest this?

Cherchez la fingerprint.

#86. At 12:55pm on 04 Jul 2010, thegangofone wrote:

'Westminster has changed and will change because it is the expression of democracy and will correct its mistakes over time.'

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Now I know you are deluded.

The oligarchs have ruined the UK. They will now seek to subtly starve the middle and lower classes to pay for their bonuses and will do everything in their power to divert reform through their stalking horse, David Cameron. They will speak out of both sides of their mouths. Unemployment insurance, social security benefits, and pensions are bad, and their unfortunate recipients lazy, stupid and expendable, but their keeping of ill gotten gains, enormous fortunes obtained through fraud and paying little or no effective taxes on them, is a requirement for economic recovery. There will be many useful idiots well outside the circle of power who will agree with this injustice, and vehemently attack the unfortunate in society because of a combination of character flaws, usually selfishness, emotional immaturity, and just plain meanness.

This is your democracy.

TO ALL & SUNDRY, i.e. to those interested in my story

Please acknowledge, not necessarily by writing back or anything similar, that I do not have a shred of feeling or sympathy left for the 2 of my tutors from the School of Slavonic and East European Studies, formerly being under London University and now as part of the UCL. Not after they've been up to since I last put my foot there which I understand is now in a new building and not in the Senate House.

As a reminder, one of them became a simultaneous translator/interpreter for NATO years ago now having trained himself to become one at Westminster University,/supported by the Machiavellian Mandy/ and hence his 'links', and the other a Professor, awfully keen on Symbolism, previously at least supported by the disgraced former Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

It has been scam, scam, scam ever since and I do not wish to have anything to do with them in the future whatever the conditions I might find myself in. If they think or feel otherwise they are fooling themselves out of their wits and no science or appeal to the democratically elected leaders anywhere in the world, or despots, or anyone else for that matter, is going to help them in reversing my deeply felt disgust with them as supposedly human beings and neither gold nor promises of comfort, or anything similar, can be of any help to them in this respect.

Monika

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At long last somebody is doing the right kind of job in the soiled Gulf:

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10502957.stm
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Madrid Manifesto on migraine launched

"Migraine needs to be put firmly on the political agenda," says Audrey Craven, EHA President, "Our manifesto is a call to European policy makers to make migraine awareness and research a top priority."

"For too long the condition has been seen as ‘just a headache' and migraineurs have been left to suffer in the silence and isolation of the darkened room," she continues. "

Ive come back on here to post this because I consider it to be of importance . There is a PDF file of the Madrid Manifesto on the' click here' link top right.

I hope the appropriate government departments and persons take note !!!

a friend of mine from long ago died this week
feeling saddened, tired and hungry,
i went to the 'Peoples' nightclub
people see what they want to see*.

didn't really want conversation,
desired to leave as soon as arrived.
unhappy countenance, emotionally shielded
people will see what they want to see.

a quick kiss from the person who invited,
then completely ignored.
a hug from an unexpected quarter -
sometimes people are better than what they see.

the torture of 'Celebrity'
"what is it that they want from me"?
how genuine, how authentic?
you learn not to trust what you see.

truman show makes everything worse,
how do you deal with strangers having models of you?
people interpreting all to fit existing preconceptions.
people see what they want to see.

media like to build things up,
all the more enjoyment when they later attack.
or is this just part of our Culture?
people see what they are told to expect to see.

tired of people like mim, like Hill, Morgan, Friedman
tired indeed of the Human Race (dogs nicer people)
tired of the ego games, control dramas, deliberate lies no honour.
people judge on unsubstantiated rumour.

surrounded by these energy-suckers,
ego's convinced, or vile jealousy,
attacking from every direction,
ordering people what they should see.

my first friend to die of an overdose,
a controversial figure - no saint was he.
the unhappiest night out for many a month
but people see what they expect to see.

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*and not only because we are more likely to see that which we are already looking for, but also:

https://www.spring.org.uk/2009/12/how-other-peoples-expectations-control-us.php

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXtkAJOZ1s

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#82: brighty,

"Let’s see, just how many elected officials, business managers, Joe Public would willing wield the sword that cut of (or down) their support mechanism without being forced to? Erm, let me see – I think I have enough fingers to count them up. And would they be smart, decent and honest, or bleeding fools."

edward de bono, the famous 'left-field' thinker and philosopher, came up with a suggestion that stuck in my head for the last 20 or so years since i read it - offer staff a large bonus (30% of annual salary or more), if they can come up with a way that their job could become redundant. Its a good concept, but would absolutely require full transparency and accountability - probably work-place democracy as well. Otherwise it is certain that unscrupulous managers would create jobs that can then be scrapped.

but it is a possible way for a well-developed, healthy civil society to prune its own excesses, in the long run.


"rumpelstiltskin"? Is that one of Farrage's nicknames for the president of Europe? ;)

Whereas the WTC was Bush's reichstag, the Gulf is Obama's. Let's see more billion go into solar, and let's see the petrodollar as a concept end. Simply by becoming energy independent, the Asians and the Arabs will be quaking in their boots, and their leader will have to choose between 4 billion unemployed, or a new future based on energy abundance and price systems that can accomodate it.

POURING TROUBLE ON OILED WATERS (#96)

Obama was quick (too quick?) to declare the G of M oil release an echo of 9/11. Prior to that, 9/11 was dubbed the 'New Pearl Harbour'. Pearl Harbour and 9/11 were both employed, by America's leaders, to drastically change American national thinking.

We need to look coolly at what 'change of popular mind' this spill will gift to the Machiavellian manipulators of USA power. An obvious effect is to jaundice deep sea drilling. Might that make Arctic oil production more acceptable? I wonder if UK will back off in the Falklands?

OR IS SOMETHING FAR MORE SINISTER GOING ON?