Friday 16 October 2009

Oh I just love to rant on about the art world.

You need to stop talking about Hirst for starters.

The people who make art now, who get value seem to be gutless rear end creeps to me. They know how to target the people who matter to them - important curators and that's it really, not much else matters, no one else exists. Its a feudal system that's has more in common with a ponzi scheme and the most effective affinity fraud known to man kind.

The art kings set up prizes - The Turner - which starts the ball rolling on the affinity fraud and guess what you have one 'winner' on review. What do you bet Martha will say - Grayson Perry winner of the Turner. And to be sure the BBC is part of this affinity fraud.

We need a new way to give value its as simple as that. But how do you take the shear class snobbery and money equation out of it? Not going to happen is it. Its just going to get more and more gross and vile and I don't mean to look at.

Here is a bit of art which has no value and the link will be broken by the mods. I challenge any 'name' artist to make one of these and totally on their own with no more than 3k :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42833216@N05/3971255823/

It's about time Geert Wilders was let into the UK :o) - there was no reason to ban him in the first place.

#52 (former page) from mimpromptu
Well, Mistress76uk, if you were Madam Mim you'd have better insight into what's going on at Newsnight. In the last few months or so, you seem to have changed track and give praise just to anything that you see on Newsnight. Previously you used to be much more selective and concentrated mostly on Jeremy's input.
If I started 'undoing' each item on the programme, there would be no end to it. I'm much happier spending my time composing ditties for Streetphotobeing which, if you have followed them, cover quite a variety of issues and people, including the Royal Couple's enjoyment of mixing with 'ordinary' people at the New London Theatre the other night.
It looks like I may have to skip watching the programme again as I need to continue catching up on sleep which I started this afternoon in one of the World Cinemas. In fact, they needed to wake me up well after the film had finished, I was so tired.

Hope your ok mim. I had a terrible migraine other day - ghastly things.

Mim - record Newsnight on your Sky + box/DVD recorder/watch it on BBCi Player! I merely comment on those reports/debates I enjoyed - and deservedly so too :o)
What don't you like about reports/debates on Newsnight? We'd all like to know.......
Have a good sleep.

#4 from mimpromptu
My main problem revolves around the bowel area, Streetphotobeing, also ghastly.
And to top that, for some strange reason the waterwoks and central heating were causing noisy havoc in my attic though on my return this evening things seem to be quieter.
mim

there is an excellent watch again show on afghanistan from pbs frontline

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/view/

good public service broadcasting [lest we forget]

How about asking this Bruce guy if the PM really is on anti-depressants.

'the taliban are a proxy for pakistan's foreign policy' is what we learn from the pbs frontline show. that the usa and by extension the uk is fighting pakistan's foreign policy.

in normal language that would mean we are at war with pakistan?

did anyone hear the interview with a cia spokesman on five live drive today that flatly contradicted Millibands statement? He used more forceful language to express his view of what milliband was doing. Further he said they were asked by the uk to say it would upset relations . in his view it never would?

what are those living in the neocon castle that is the foreign office up to? the neocons are the real enemy and threat to uk security.

how would knowing how someone was tortured be something that needs to be suppressed?

"the artist who has sex with a collector for 20,000 dollars".
H#ll's teeth, wish I'd thought of that one. But then again, Charles Saatchi collects modern art, so perhaps not.

"Earlier I put it to David Miliband the position amounted to "mealy mouthed fence sitting".

You can see his response to that this evening."

I bet you don't press him too hard Emily. ;-)

"Also tonight, we'll be asking how much sympathy there is here for the position of Geert Wilders - the Dutch politician who calls the Koran a fascist document that should be banned and says he is against Islamic culture and Islamisation of the West. Should he have been allowed into Britain? Was he war mongering in seeking to come here or demonstrating that the UK is indeed, a country that can tolerate dissenting voices in the name of freedom of speech?"

He's a right-winger - i.e an anarchistic (libertarian) neoconservative and thus supporter of Israel and ...... the free-market.

The reason he doesn't like Islam is because Islam is anti-usury, pro-family and therefore very bad for the Liberal-Democratic freedoms which brought us the Credit Crunch, dysgenic fertility and below replacement level TFRs.

Should he have been let into Britain......?

#5 from mimpromptu
Mistress76uk
I don't think they take much notice of me on Newsnight, at least some of the producers and external 'contributors' don't, so I see absolutely no point carrying on about it too much.
Have you seen jj's postings to me accusing me of all sorts of things, including my 'wrong' attitude to sexual matters and of selfishness, etc.? That's probably because I refuse to pamper his ego.
With regard to back watching Newsnight the following day, yes I do that but am very selective in which item I choose and more often than not just skip through the whole thing in a few minutes.
Mistress76uk, at some stage I considered working for Newsnight myself, now that I have much more confidence about things but unless the programme undergoes a total overhaul I couldn't do it even, as you probably know, I do have well established links with Jeremy Paxman who I've asked to take charge of all my ditties and prose musings. And that's not because he is sexy, it's because I appreciate the way he writes and the way he is, including his charitable work for the homeless, for example.

A TRULY FASCINATING JUXTAPOSITION

Miliband as the mealy-mouthed unacceptable gob of government - a government that connived at rendition and torture, covering up with weasel words. Conversely, Wilders is the tell-it-as-I-see-it and be damned, voice of many, who are in utter despair at the Miliband face of weaseldom.

Mankind is doomed to invent gods and write books in their names. This is part of the curse of The Ape Confused by Language. But Britain's bizarre espousal of inverse taboos, and associated PC-think, has lost her collective reason. Asylum R us.

#12
Yes, unless you think he may try to fly the plane into a tower.

Barrie (#14) "Conversely, Wilders is the tell-it-as-I-see-it and be damned, voice of many, who are in utter despair at the Miliband face of weaseldom."

He's a politician.

I don't take him at face value. He is, as I say, a right-wing libertarian, that is, a neocon. Islam is a threat to their economic anarchism, that's all. Thus, he and Miliband are two sides of the same coin.

#1 from mimpromptu
Nice one, Streetphotobeng, that image
mim

I DON'T EVEN TAKE ME AT FACE VALUE JJ! (#16)

But I do have half an idea what drives my take on life.

Poster know thyself?

barrie (#18) "But I do have half an idea what drives my take on life. Poster know thyself?"

Please don't tell me you're going all mimsie ? =;-)

rochcarlie (#15) I suspect he'd be'd be more likely to have someone else 'inspire' someone else to do that sort of thing...

Those Islamo-fascists are nearly as bad as Stalin was for freedom.

Torture

Oh there are documents on his torture. It's all just a paper chase for the lawyers and a buzz for the media in the game within the game.

Nothing gets done about the systematic torture that occurs everyday in UK police stations. Are the media and the politicians scared of tackling that one? Or just let the police get on with it, because British police wouldn't torture innocent members of the public just to fiddle crime statistics-would they?

Bruce Bueno de Mesquita

Well it's NN amateur hour again, not the black swan this time someone else. Perhaps NN should really investigate that UK police had 7 months warning of the catastophic UK flooding and 2 years advanced knowledge that the UK economy would collapse due to criminal intent.

They just pretend they didn't know about either.

Celtic Lion

Item on today's BBC Webpage:

"Iraq sends back UK asylum flight
Iraqi asylum seekers returned to Baghdad by the UK government are refused re-entry to their homeland, and flown back to Britain."

No wonder we are the second most crowded country, after Malta!

Not only do we hang on to released murderers and rapist - to protect their Human Rights, rather than those of our citizens - but we have to take back those not wanted by their own countries!

Can we really believe that there is a positive aspect to our immigration 'policy' with our UK Border Control Farce?

Perhaps a non-biased organisation (e.g.Migrationwatch) could factor in the costs of these charades, including the costs of this other Home Office programme:

"Assisted Voluntary Return of Irregular Migrants
It is for people who are in the United Kingdom illegally, including those who have overstayed the time allowed by their visa or who have been smuggled into the country.If you are accepted onto this programme, IOM can give you:

tickets to your home country;
help with arranging your travel; and
help with obtaining travel documents.
You cannot apply to this programme if you wish to return to a country that is within the European Union.
A solicitor or other qualified adviser advises you on how our laws apply to your case."

With these 'no-lose' policies, it's no wonder that the Calais crowd and others keep trying their luck. We don't know how many are not detected, but even if you are unlucky, it's still worth a try, as the UK taxpayer will be footing your legal and travel bills.

#16 jj "Islam is a threat to their economic anarchism, that's all"

I would hazard a guess that the average NN viewer (and blogger) takes a more pragmatic view of what Islam is. Whilst I value your scientific analysis on matters such as IQ's and TFI's, etc., the constant bandying of non-scientific names and classes, such as economic anrchism, Trotskyist, etc., does not correspond to the real threats that people of my acquaintance feel about the importation of alien cultures and the way it is affecting their lives.

I guess that on this blogsite I fit somewhere between the trivial twirlers and the academic lecturers: no doubt you have a formal classification in mind, but I will continue to post as an indignant indegene.

#12 The reason he doesn't like Islam is because Islam is anti-usury, pro-family and therefore very bad for the Liberal-Democratic freedoms which brought us the Credit Crunch, dysgenic fertility and below replacement level TFRs.

JJ would you like to see Britain become an Islamic state then, with Sharia law in practice?

MILIBAND D - UP FOR A TONY AWARD - NOT.

When accused of weasel words and fence sitting, by Emily, he only defended fence sitting; just as well. His plea that the documents about torture might have been about something else, reminded me of Grandad Trotter, staring out to sea, barefoot with his trousers rolled up. When the beach ball struck the back of Granddad's head, he TURNED and uttered the immortal line: "That could have had my eye out". (It is 'all my eye' with Miliband D)

There is always that 'Bluebottle' subtext of 'look how important I am' when Miliband D gives forth, but he just doesn't have a 'Tony' in him. Tony would not have said the 10-word killer phrase: "CRIMES of Hamas as well as ALLEGED CRIMES of Israel". What an IED! (Instant End of Dream.)

indignantindegene (#23) "..the constant bandying of non-scientific names and classes, such as economic anrchism, Trotskyist, etc., does not correspond to the real threats that people of my acquaintance feel about the importation of alien cultures and the way it is affecting their lives."

Oh it does. Stick with me and this may dawn on you...

It's just that you don't know how to use some of these terms correctly. That's all. Similarly, when you go to a doctor and s/he assesses/diagnoses/treats what is wrong, s/he does not do so in normal language.

There are people out there who misrepresent, and write nonsense about the nature of anarchism. Anarchism is anti-statism. Thatcher and Blair were anti-statists. They were anarchists, as were the original Jewish Bolsheviks who brought down Russia in 1917 to get them out of WWI. They were working for the Germans. Islamists are not anti-statists (many Islamic states were Soviet Republics). The PM of Malaysia despised what Jewish economic anarchism was doing (see 'Commanding Heights'). Islamists have higher than replacement level TFRs. Islamists, if you look closely, believe in traditional family values and sex roles etc...It is very like Catholicism. This is now alien to many in the free-liberal-democracies because of the influence of anarchism, anti-statism.

What many people hate about Islam today is what they've been misled to fear by anarchists, and Israelis.

Most of the UK is Islamophobic, just as it is still anti-Nazi/Fascist. It is so because of post war/Cold War conditioning, and this serves the same old agenda - namely, promotion of economic anarchism (deregulation) aka the free-market - usury...;-)

It makes Old Labour's statist policies inconceivable.. doesn't it?

More messages of hate! Being clearly displayed on placards in London today.
ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD. FREEDOM CAN GO TO HELL. To quote just one of the slogans.
Isn't there laws to stop this? Or do they just apply to the indigenous population.

OH COME ON LIZZIE - EVEN JESUS PINCHED THE GOOD BITS OF OTHER'S WORK.

I want to sit in the cheap seats with IDG2 and watch an (imaginary?) Mad Madame Mim twirling on the ice, as we compare notes on which bits of which religions/faiths/belief-systems/philosophies/life-doctrines et al, we are going to force on the stupid proles, when we take power. (Not sure i got that right.) Meanwhile JJ will be in a box, chucking fortune cookies full of abstruse truth at us. It is possible to espouse 'not putting your oldies in a home' without having cross amputations (or even smiley ones). So where do you want to be? I can't hang about, I have a world to fix!

ecolizzy (#24) "JJ would you like to see Britain become an Islamic state then, with Sharia law in practice?"

Would I like to see Britain become a Nazi state where children are gassed, babies cut up alive for experiments and gays sterilised etc? Would I like to see 'naughty' adolescents cruelly locked away in the GULAG to rot (crime peask at 19 and is mainmly male)?

This is what we are being fed about Islam, propaganda. It is because Islam opposes a) Jewish economic anarchism and b) Jewish Zionism.

People in teh West are being made piggies in the middle or footsoldiers for the Neocon/Zionist agenda. Can you see how?

Have you noticed how 'the war on terror' and the dire Islamic threat dissolved very quickly a while back? That's the media that is, just like Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Gloabl Warming etc...

There is an immigration problem (just as there is a White Underclass problem), but it has nothing to do with Islam, race or skin colour. It has to do with lowish genetic ability and high birth rates in that demographic. They present a credit risk which can't easily be securitized away.

BLIMEY JADED JEAN - YOU 'HIT A NERVE' THERE (#26)

"Similarly, when you go to a doctor and s/he assesses/diagnoses/treats what is wrong, s/he does not do so in normal language."

Spot on JJ. My Doctor spoke in LATIN when confronted with my mystery leg itch - that he wot not of. "Senile Pruritis" he intoned, and I roundly cursed him to great merriment. It fell to me to discover that homocystein attacks the endothelium of the veins and, when situated near the surface, serum leakage reaches the 'itch nerves' under the skin. QED. Not a lot of doctors know that. (I even know the non-drug preventative action - but not in Latin.) (:o)

#28 I love your posts Barrie, they always make me smile! : ) I've got such a good mental picture in my head now. : ) Can't imagine what Mim and JJ will think though.

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ecolizzy (#31) "Can't imagine what Mim and JJ will think though."

Imagine no more.

I try to leave little to the imagination.

#29 JJ you are getting as bad as the politicians with your spin. ; ) A simple yes or no would suffice. ; )

GET THE BEHIND ME ECOLIZZIE - OR STATE YOUR POSITION (#31)

Flattery is OK. More will be fine. But the question: "So where do you want to be? I can't hang about, I have a world to fix!" actually had a serious side. I tend to feel one should have at least a germ of a solution, when confronting issues. So let's have your credo and an outline constitution - 2000 words by Monday. (:o)

PS If you are against amputations, what are you going to do about all those - er - you know - end bits, removed willy-nilly, with little or no justification?

#31 from mimpromptu
ecolizzy
Barrie has confused Madam Mim at times but following his and your posts of this evening, how about joining him and Indignantdegene at Queen's to watch her twirl? But please don't, under no circumstances, take jj with you. She might get a sudden attack of bowel pain and you would have wasted your journey.

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indignantindegene (#23) "I would hazard a guess that the average NN viewer (and blogger) takes a more pragmatic view of what Islam is."

What the average NN viewer (and blogger) thinks is not what matters. What matters is what is true, and, if anyone is saying anything worth while, it's not going to be something which is already familiar to the average NN viewer or blogger, now is it? ;-)

THEY ALSO SERVE WHO ONLY GO DOWN THE MEMORY HOLE (#37)

I was moved to comment in a somewhat Wild (Wilders) style, on Hare Coursing and care homes. You all know me - write it yourselves. The Truth shall see you removed.

When is an abstention not an abstention? Well, we have all learnt that tonight. It's a long time since I've seen anything quite so nauseating as Miliband trying to justify wriggling out of upsetting America and Israel by a pseudo-abstention on the UN resolution on war crimes. (I suppose we can't upset America twice in one day - preferring our judiciary to our politicians is enough naughtiness for the moment.) And I thought Emily did well in going after him: almost like Paxo in his glory days.

"FREEDOM CAN GO TO HELL" (#27)

I have just been hit by the surreal beauty of that slogan. It ranks in the 'Halls of Crass' with: "The Wrong Side of History" to which Obama consigned HIS detractors, in his inauguration speech. Our Tony used to come out with similar claptrap. Is it a symptom of religious dementia?

The thought of 'Freedom' turning up in Hell, is so engaging! It would be like anti-matter encountering matter. In a nano-second, all the bad folk since time began would be released. Doh! Be careful what you wish for guys.

#41 from mimpromptu
Why do you insist on identifying Obama with Blair? I'm not sure whether I would like you to come and watch Madam Mim twirl. She wouldn't like to be identified with jj's girlfriend.

#42 from mimpromptu
Barrie, I've just realised that in your #28 post you call Madam Mim mad again. Please do feel free to carry on in this vein but I can't imagine her wishing to see you among her guests either tomorrow, or on Sunday or Monday or at any stage in fact. Smoothed faced agent provocateur, are you?

from mimpromptu
Streetphotobeing
It looks like jj is fighting for B Singleton's soul and winning but I couldn't care less, to be honest. They'll have plenty of time consoling each other with no access to what they've been feeding on so far.
And here's something for goodnight for you, not for parasites:
Streetphtobeing, it has been revealing
This evening so reeling with news reels and news talk
After today so full of pain feeling.
Tomorrow mim’s taking her rhymes for a walk.
mim

from mimpromptu
re: a mug - its history and its role played in the global scheme of things
A Mutty Mug or a Muggy Mutt

Streetphotobeing, I do have a mug
Of fine bone china though in England made.
I bought it in a shop appropriately called 'Chimes'
Which goes quite well with my rhythms & rhymes.

On it an upright tuna is by someone's drawn
Playing a piano and some notes are shown
Flying above the tuna and the piano
Awaiting, I imagine, to receive a bravo

From listeners and viewers of the music played
For the Common Wealth countries hopefully prepared
To shine as examples of what can be achieved
In terms of cooperation with the Queen as Head.

I bought it after Jeremy Paxman's piece
Where improvisation was for viewers by him introduced.
'My name is Monika', that's what on it's writ
In different languages encouraging Mim's wit

To come forth and expand in more rhythms & rhymes.
Musical keys I also bought in 'Chimes'.
There is another statement on the mug that's writ,
'A mutt, one of plenty' to mark Barack's wit.

Madam Mim is a mutt of the European kind
While Barack Obama – intercontinental type.
That's how it comes to life when black coffee's drunk
By mad Madam Mim in her armchair sunk

In front of the telly or right on the floor
Looking at the Blue Moon, enjoying outpour
Of musical pieces in all shapes and forms
Thus making her heart fill up with warmth.
mim

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE ;-(

barrie (#41) 'Freedom Can Go To Hell' appears to me, to be an anti anarchistic slogan. As I keep saying, the Satanists (aka the anarchistic liberal-democracy peddlers from the Austrian and Chicago Schools of 'economics') have the British and US electorate wishing for their own demise in the anti-anarchists' view, hence 'Freeedom Can Go To Hell'.

Once you seee this you will see how you are being hoodwinked into being a 'useful idiot' like the rest :-(

Nos 45

Bagged a good one there mim. Hope you have a pain free and balanced day. Hope I have one as well.

mimpropmptu (#43) "Barrie, I've just realised that in your #28 post you call Madam Mim mad again. Please do feel free to carry on in this vein but I can't imagine her wishing to see you among her guests either tomorrow, or on Sunday or Monday or at any stage in fact."

If I suggest that if your guests/'friends' do not regularly feed back the nature of your clealry odd, eccentric, pathological, (Axis II, Cluster A?) behaiour, they are either not genuine friends, or they comprise a mad hatters' - and which sane person would wish to attend?

LEARNING/CHANGE HURTS

No pain, no gain, they say.

Ecolizzy, ponder what I say. Freedom is anarchism. Fascism was also called corporativism. Mussolini started as a Marxist, he was not right wing. Like National Socialism, Fascism is left wing like Stalinism. Remember the Islamist 'terrorists' were referred to as Islamo-Fascists by Bush? Loook into who founded the The Baath Party. What were the IRA? All of these groups were bad for the free-markets, and not just the Twin Towers in NYC.

Look up The Austrian School and Chicago School, and study that graphic on the history of the Neocons in the Washington Post. Propaganda thrives on people's false pride...i.e their being led by their noses, by false images, by deception. Females make the best foot-soldiers in that respect, for obvious reasons.

erratum (#48) "they comprise a mad hatters' sycophancy"

Believe it or not, this really is benevolent critical feedback (which is a positive use of this blog I suggest).

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Emily - well done. I was wrong. You pushed Miliband about as far as anyone could reasonably be expected to.

THE OLD FLIPPANCY PLOY - DOUBTS AND REDOUBTS (#43 & 46)

Where to go when you are in danger of being overwhelmed, out-scholared and annihilated? For some (and I am one) a place of safety is FLIPPANCY.
Abhorred by schoolteachers of my past, it nevertheless may carry a grain of truth - on occasion.

I thought I had given my source (as in all the best learned papers) to Mimpromptu, when I re-dubbed her: "Mad Madame Mim". For the avoidance of doubt: the original Disney Mim can be found on the web, but should in no wise be confused with the 3M company! The entire three-word epithet is thus a single unit, and hangs, tenuously, to mimpromptu by the commonality: 'mim'. Sorted.

Another strategy of the threatened ego, might be for a useful idiot to hide among the useless ones. (Have I just described becoming an MP?) Or am I being flippant again?

JJ you demonstrate the very behaviour that alienates those who don't have full insight into their health problems and leaves them to a lonely isolar life which eventual exacerbates and deepens the problem further. But no doubt if you had your own way such people would not exist in the first place.

I believe its a worth while cause to engage with a person if only to try to 'hold' them emotionally and psychologically and not bash them with arrogance; if the leg is broken to you hit it? Then why hit the mind/brain if its not working properly and endlessly so ? Its why I don't think this place is good for mim and the BBC are negligent.

JJ's NYC thesis has made sense of certain things I previously did not understand - such as why Bush allegedly has family and business links with Bin Laden, why sharia finance is being encouraged in the UK, and why Blair will be leader of a Federal EUrabia - and the dysgenesis thesis has made me realise that some European cultures are past the point of no return (a sad day for those Europeans, not so sad for the rest of the world), and that education policies could definitely benefit from acknowledging the hereditary nature of human potential. However :) I find that the arguments put forward are in fact arguments as to why liberal-democracy works and not why it doesn't! The problem for liberal-democracy is keeping it alive when it is surrounded by totalitarian ideologies, which by definition are better equipped to perpetuate themselves and eliminate their opponents. Liberal-democracy will re-emerge in perhaps a few more hundered years and maybe that time it will be able to reach fruition just as it was about to do at the end of the 20th century. Unitl then, all over Europe there will be pockets of wierd old Europeans clinging to their past traditions, having a drink and a laugh, remembering the old days.

PUSHING JELLY UP A HILL (#52)

Here here JJ! - your post an example to us all. I would like to add my support to that praise of Emily. But NOW we need that dissection of the Miliband performance by language specialist and psychologist - served cold, with the process repeated for other political utterances, on a regular basis.

Note to Newsnight 'Enhancer Unit': When analysing political utterance, as above, you could have the video-wall full of 'jelly images'. Jelly tennis, nailing jelly to a wall, a jelly bicycle saddle - etc.

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Streetphotobeing
The day is not likely to be pain free but it has been more than balanced thus far, for me at least, and I heartily wish you the same though with no pain.
mim

"Mad Madame Mim"

Barrie if you knew what I know I don't think you would use it.

barrie (#53) "Another strategy of the threatened ego, might be for a useful idiot to hide among the useless ones. (Have I just described becoming an MP?) Or am I being flippant again?"

I don't know, but I do know that thousands of people have lost their lives over this islamofascism propaganda, and those most benefiting from it only allegedly commit crimes, as you astutely spotted and commented upon. It's not a flippant matter when millions in this country are being misled by spin.

Need I say that I am more than happy to have my analyses contradicted/refuted if that's done rationally. Some others posting here are not. But then, they are not scientists are they Barrie? Scientists look for people to find fault. Non scientists don't. What we need is more posters building on the fremawork I have explicated I suggest. This is a team 'game'.

Newsnigt Review - Hurst etc. Yes, the bubble has burst. Rememeber the links?

streetphotobeing (#58) "Barrie if you knew what I know I don't think you would use it."

Don't flatter yourself. I suspect barrie and I both know what you know. We are being socially useful. It's a vicarious service. You would do well to pay attention.

DOWN IS THE NEW UP

All flippancy aside (and sincere point taken) is the BBC in breach of some duty of care - implied, though probably nowhere expressed? As media rushes towards natal immaturity, across the board, should it even countenance interactive function, that few 'adults' could now properly mediate?

I have commented on the world's state of mind before, and how it should take precedence over GDP and education-for-Mammon. The BBC, with its worldwide uptake, could do much to address this. But I fear 'edgy immaturity' is well entrenched, and 'down is the new up'.

Nos 60

And thereby condemn yourself further.

barrie (#56) "But NOW we need that dissection of the Miliband performance by language specialist and psychologist - served cold, with the process repeated for other political utterances, on a regular basis."

You've had one - see the intensional idioms of propositional attitude (ch. 6, Word and Object 1960) - There's no need for a sentence by sentence analysis of D Miliband. He equivocates. The judge ruled the content had no national security implications. Miliband and the USA ignore this. They are abusing a quite legitimate concern where it does not apply. He digs himself deeper every time he speaks and does not appear to see this. Watch Netanyahu...

The threat to the UK and USA is clearly free-market libertarianism aka anarchism given the effect on birth-rates alone, and yet the reinforcers were given a mandate for their 'Satanic' evil-doing by the electorate! How dumbed down is that? Go through teh Muslim values one by one and you will find 40s and 50s British values!

The evidence is all about us surely? How much evidence does one need? It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the evil-dooers in Financial Services have been threatening politicians - hence the credit crunch itself and no real change in bonuses and profits announced by the big players recently?

streetphotobeing (#62) "And thereby condemn yourself further."

No. You are an arrogant amateur. You need to think (and act) on this.

HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL IN THE PESSIMIST CHEST (avoiding Blogdog) (#63)

I don't think the bananas of this banana-flag-of-convenience, unit-of-global-function, even begin to spot the Miliband (et al) mercurial semantics. I honestly believe something along the lines of Sesame Street is called for - especially if it combined a Spitting Image approach.

In my particular case, I can 'see the join' and analyse the transcript but I can't (as declared before) follow experts in heavy tomes.

#53 from mimpromptu
Mr Barrie Singleton
You do what you want, pop in to watch or don't. It's up to you. I'm not in the business of trying to win anybody or anything like that. Freedom of choice is my preferred option.

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#54
Streetphotobeing
Although ultimagely I'd prefer to be somewhere else, this is a good place for Madam Mim in terms of sharepening her teeth and of sharing her baggy ditties. And anyway - as long as you are around it's all worthwhile.
mim

WINNING TAKES MANY FORMS (#66)

Thanks mimpromtu. Be lucky. Out.

THE INSCRUTIBILITY OF REFERENCE: GAVAGAI

barrie (#65) "I don't think the bananas of this banana-flag-of-convenience, unit-of-global-function, even begin to spot the Miliband (et al) mercurial semantics."

When Miliband talks on Newsnight, he's also talking the Obama, Netanyahu, Hamas, Russian, Chinese......Grey Cardinals... Hence, never really says anything. The language of diplomacy is impenetrable by design.

You know this. You know I know you know this. ;0)

SPOT THE ANARCHISTS

It's not as easy as one might think when the good guys/gals aren't in white.

JUST HOW STUPID CAN WE GET?

Surely there's a limit before we die out? Easton's blog category is 'the way we live', maybe it should be 'how we self-estinguish via below replacement level plus dysgenic fertily'? Except there aren't enough peoe with a high enough reading-age to understand that? At one time all Christians were Catholics, then this chap came along and got 'Aryans' all in a flutter!.....

There are still a few of them left in Scandinavia and the backwoods of the USA. The German one's are still a bit cowed.......... ;-)

Anyone feel they've been had yet?

Postscript: Oddly, ty cn hndl txt tlk, but only if on mble fone!

Watched Agnes Poirier (most elegant and beautifully articulated) on Date Line London earlier does she still live here? I remember reading her book:
The English Model, A French Illusion
a real slam dunk on us lot and I agree with her. I wounder why people who sound off like her choose to stay here?

Dutch rightwinger politician says Islam is "retarded". Strong words from the blonde fella but his sentiments I guess are widely shared though not often aired by others for fear of the usual ranting death threat. A more accurate analysis would be all religions are retarded - although some more than others, if i can quote Orwell. All religions are by their very nature, just cults in one form or another. An indoctrinated and dogmatic belief system born out of a mans need to belong. To be part of a tribe which is nearly always primary; the quest for spiritual enlightenment generally comes a poor second if at all. The growth of Islam is a direct response to the west and its sustained progress and enriched lifestyles. It has driven Muslims wild that they have to rely on the west for most material things, Cars, boats, planes, technology, oil extraction ect.
Islamic countries have produced little too nothing other than a growing army of mind controlled automatons who's sole aim is to address the imbalance of power/crush the decadent west. We are told that Muslims do not drink or smoke and are devote in their beliefs, but Islam is a hashish based cult... they have been on the bong for centuries! - anybody who knows anything about its military history and their fearless warriors will be aware of this fact - and hence this is why they have struggled to progress and why they hate the West. And we are slowly recognizing that fact albeit very late-in-the-day.

ABERRANT SPECIES DIVIDES TO FIGHT ITSELF

Only HomSap has a constant pain (of awareness) in his head and the cleverness to assuage it, while being without the wisdom to rise above both.

Only HomSap invents religious constructs and then goes to war in terms of them.

Only Homsap has messed up every aspect of his life such that sustainability is no longer an option and anxiety/madness on the rise.

The problem to be addressed is the mentality of HomSap. Why do we not mature? Why are we so short of wisdom? Why have we elevated cleverness and innovation at the expense of wisdom and consolidation? Why do we bow to empty charisma and oratory in desperate wannabe leaders - then let them lead?

Laser fooling of flies, is all very well, but development of wisdom in man is a little more urgent. Of course, the laser-wielding academics with 'letters' must first admit that they are just faulty HomSaps before they see the worth of such research. Meanwhile . . .

barrie (#75) Oy, get out of my box! ;-)

MAN WITH PUSH-BIKE ONLY GO FAST IF HANG ON LORRY

My trouble, JJ, is I understand so little of your box (well - as currently constructed) I don't even know I am in it! I have checked that I haven't trodden in anything, and will close the flap quietly when I leave. (:o)

PS - A bit worried about your use of 'Oy'.

war crimes

is it surprising the neocon castle that is the foreign office buckled under israeli pressure? the submission [and humiliation] looks complete?

given brown, blair and cameron are patrons of the jnf that has polices that would be illegal in the uk the uk position is biased?

NN didn't report the use of phosphorus or cluster bombs in gaza.

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streetphotobeing
got on to the ice twenty past two
quite quet for a Saturday afternoon
Albinoni - famous Adagio; Armstrong - Jeepers Creepers; Cole - Mona Lisa; Flamenco Nuevo, Jasmina - Happiness.
I don't know why I can possibly be so happy these days, Streetphotobeing, but most of the time I am.
I'm just opposite Queen's and may do a bit more twirling if it's not too busy.
No pain at present and fine balance persits.
How about you?
mim

for some reason its ok to ask ordinary people to take on islamic extremists but not for them to take on the local drug warlord, racketeer or other organised crime gang?

so islamic extremists are not as dangerous?

when the public are warned not to get involved in any confrontation and indeed expose themselves to prosecution even defending themselves from gangs why is it reasonable to expect people to take on islamic extremists. Do they not have a violent history?

should people in northern ireland 'take on' the those extremists?

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Streetphotobeing
It's full of kids now so I simply joked around to Fernandel and sighed to the Blue Moon and plan to be on my way but don't know exactly where to yet.
mim

Moderators, I enjoy JJ's posts and the freedom for her to speak, but clearly the same freedom is not exercised for discussing other ethnic/population groups. That's the irony, she rails against a bias that if it were real would put paid to her freedom to spout her particular brand of venom.

#38 JJ
"What the average NN viewer (and blogger) thinks is not what matters. What matters is what is true........"

If the average NN viewer (and blogger) = the average voter, then what the average person thinks is at least as important as what is true, given a General Election soon.

"...and, if anyone is saying anything worth while, it's not going to be something which is already familiar to the average NN viewer or blogger, now is it?"

I have reservations with that too:
(i)Most of my posts may be on issues with which the average person is already familiar, but I consider it worthwhile to give these issues the 'oxygen of publicity' and preferably stimulate discussion, in order to let our government know that we are not all 'useful idiots' (this is what most of us expect of NN and our free press);
(ii)Not only must the blog be 'worthwhile',but it must also be understandable, persuasive and be seen to be the truth.

To achieve the above objectives the language used must be that of the average person, not academia-speak (or doctor's Latin).

My #23 in response to your #16 concerned the growth of Islam in UK.

We clearly differ on the merits of this. Whilst I acknowledge some of the arguments that you put forward (having studied much of the material published by the Islamic press) I share the views of my 'average' colleagues (and many bloggers) that our society, broken and degenerate through misgovernment (benefits, empowerment, multiculture, etc)is now being hijacked by alien cultures and beliefs in our midst.

Your 'academic' analysis, using terminology such as Bolshevic, Islamo-fascist, anarchistic liberal-democracies, etc and references to Stalin, Mussolini, etc., whilst no doubt historically accurate, do not have resonance with my 'average' friends(any more than does another poster who insist on seing every issue in terms of Adolf Hitler and the BNP).

However, we should all make use of what is left of our freedom of speech and use whatever language and methods of persuasion we can, courtesy of the blogdog, and before the Equalities Bill dumbs us down further.

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Streetphotobeing

I forgot to mention 'Midnight Love' from the album 'The Endless Rising of the Sun' which I enjoyed moving to on ice this afternoon as well.

mim

bookhimdano (#80) "so islamic extremists are not as dangerous?"

There are less Islamic Extremists in Britain today than there are .. (name your preferred offending behaviour class)

It's a political creation/exaggeration. Some group(s) want the public to be focusing on this threat... Remember Policy Exchange etc?

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Streetphotobeing
An incident has just happened in one of the shops which brought on some pain on again.
I was on the point of paying when I saw that the moustacho man at the till was clutching at you know what. All in all it ended with me leaving custardless and yoghurtless but otherwise I'm fine.
mim

Mim do you listen through those ear plug thingies and skate, what a thrill ? I bet you could generate some power by doing that - eco ice skating.

Ive had a pain free day but a little anxious about a few deals, one down another to go tomorrow but have to drive quite a way. Ive pretty much controlled my migraine and only get them if I'm not in control of something, last time it was a sudden change in the weather.

Good to hear you're fine today.

You know I now find UK politics boring and a total turn off, what ever words come out of their mouths from any of them has no credibility or should I say even less than minus to the 10 squared or what ever. Where as the Af-pak, Iran, Palestinian, Israel situation is compelling and will take negotiations of genius to sort out.

Nos 86

Sounds like it may need to be reported mim. Sorry but that also brought a smile from your articulation. However its unacceptable behaviour and the person needs to be made aware of this.

indignantindegene (#83) "If the average NN viewer (and blogger) = the average voter, then what the average person thinks is at least as important as what is true, given a General Election soon."

If the average NN viewer = the average voter as we have seen on some of the recent FOCUS groups depicted on NN - we are sunk!

If people expect what they read from me to resonate with what they already think, they aren't learning anything from what they read, and they're wasting their time reading my contributions. That's a fact.

I suspect from the way that you cite some of the words from some of my posts that you haven't really looked into them all that much?....;-)

wappaho (#82) "Moderators, I enjoy JJ's posts and the freedom for her to speak, but clearly the same freedom is not exercised for discussing other ethnic/population groups. That's the irony, she rails against a bias that if it were real would put paid to her freedom to spout her particular brand of venom."

If it were real? You don't think it real?

Incidentally, there's no venom, just some exasperation that so much of the electorate is oblivious to what's going on. ;-)

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Streetphotobeing
I'm now back in the attick.
Re: the naughty boy - I think I made my point the way I dealt with the incident but have to add that he returned my purse after I'd left it in the shop. When I later walked along the street, I seemed to be coming across qiute a few other men with moustaches trying to attract my attention, just as in Queensway. I don't where they all come from and why they should find me attractive. I'll write back to you after my snooze.
mim

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6360827/Tax-raid-on-banks-planned-by-ministers.html

Yes but is this murky business still going on :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearstream

indignantindegene (#83) What if your friends just believe what our Neoconservative government(s) want them to believe?

What's 'academic' is what's unfamiliar usually and if one reads/talks in order to find endorsement of what one already believes, what's the point of reading/talking?

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Streetphotobeing
Yes, I move musically through the thingies. I'm not sure about generating eco power but I can sometimes see people's eyes looking at me in a flabbergasted kind of way and I thought cameras were flashing in force today as well but perhaps it was nothing to do with me. That's partly why, Streetphotobeing, I report on what I skate to just in case any readers of these blogs have visited the ice rink to watch. It is a real shame I can't put the music I skate to for everyone to hear but that's definitely not allowed.
Re: the current UK politics.
Well, I think we are witnessing interesting things happening in politics these days though the politicians are too slow to my liking in spelling out certain obvious truths, probably out of cowardice, I should imagine. The Royalty, however, do seem to have a much more interesting, positive and encouraging way of showing their support and appreciation of Madam Mim's ideas, musings and activities than all the Parliamentarians put together. For all I know you may have Royals links yourself, Streetphotobeing? - but I'm happy to leave this as a rhetorical question for now.

continuation of #91 from mimpromptu
A few questions, if I may, Streetphotobeing:
1. Do you think one of the most frequent bloggers on these pages sports a moustache?
2. If so, do you think he sees himself as an impersonation of all the men sporting moustaches, including the good, the bad/mad and the ugly?
3. Do you think he may have banky and personal links to the French President? I have strong reasons to believe that this is so having followed French politics at close range for rather a long time.
4. Do you think he has developed a maddening obsession with Madam Mim?
My problem with men sporting moustaches is that obviously there are some of them who are perfectly normal, real men but because of the Stalin/Hitler/Walesa/Borat, etc., game I can never be sure which ones of them are normal and which ones are involved in the game. My intuition tells me that you, Streetphotobeing, do not sport a moustache. Am I right?
P.S. I have looked at your links at #92.

#54 I think your conclusion is somewhat apt, and should be considered by the mods. It bothers me as well.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8312074.stm

I THINK THE MODS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INFILTRATED BY ROCKERS (#96)

I further wonder where reality ends and hoax begins? There is an 'Allo Allo' quality present. Hmmmmmm. Let us not lose sight of the 'edgy fun' ethos of Newsnight (indeed, BBC as a whole) and let us be mindful of the capricious nature of Cyberus (sic) aka The Blogdog. Meanwhile I am resolved to be The Watcher in the Wry.

#54 & #96
Streetphotobeing & Ecolizzy
Although I would contest your conclusion, if you are referring to myself, that I do not have full insight into my problems /construed in fact by jj rather than reflecting the real state of affairs/, I couldn't agree with you more about jj constant attempts at isolating me to a lonely insolar life but me being me I simply do not have a problem in reaching more and more people to communicate with, talk to and exchange smiles with. And if some fall by the wayside by being stupid in their behaviour towards me it is their problem and not mine but, obviously, I would prefer for it not to happen in the first place. I'm perfectly capable of dealing with others my own way.
Thank you both, however. He is being allowed to get away with murder, as they say, and it's not only the mods who should be dealing with him. He still thinks he is invincible even if he is currently locked up.
mim

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Ecolizzy
He is a kind, wise & funny, in the best sense of the word, man, isn't he, that Streetphotobeing?
No need to answer, just a rhetorical question.
mim