Adam Lambert - 'For Your Entertainment'
Adam Lambert is someone for whom the expression 'don't judge a book by its cover' takes on so many layers of meaning it might as well be a trifle. So far, the Instant Damning Judgement buttons he has hammered include: being an American Idol contestant (THE NERVE!), being a pop star who likes the classic rock music (HOW DARE HE?) being unapologetically, comfortably gay in public (WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE KIDDIES?) and hitting the dressing up box in a manner which can only be described as 'shameless' (DID EMPIRE OF THE SUN DIE FOR NOTHING??).
And now he's re-released a song which, on first listen, should probably be retitled 'I Kissed A Womaniser', and once again it's up to us, the sensible-minded, slow-to-judge, thoughtful people to work out whether he's a genius or an affront to all human decency.
I mean to say, you can cosy up to Kiss and Slash all you like, fella, but you mess with Britney at your PERIL!
(Here's the song. The video has advert cooties.)
It's probably not worth mentioning that he's got a fair set of pipes on him, is it? He does like to show them off so very much, I'd be amazed if anyone didn't already know. The latter third of the song is riddled with examples of Adam jumping across vocal registers, voice-vaulting into the upper-stratosphere so he can wave at Mariah Carey and warbling his way back down again. Call him all the names you like, if you like, but you can't deny the man can sing.
Whether this song is the best use of that showboaty throat is a whole other question. It is of a type with a few other recent hits, most notably Britney's ode to the unfaithful man. And that would be fine if it took that sound as a springboard to something else, but that doesn't happen. Despite Adam's best efforts - and BOY is he making an effort - this suffers from Selena Gomez syndrome. It's a song which is perfectly fine, but you just KNOW comes from a pile of very similar, perfectly fine songs, all written and demoed in that style because someone else had a hit with it first.
Or to put it another way, what Adam needs is a song which is as startling as his throatal twangfastics. This is not that song.
On the plus side, I like the breakdown bit, where it sounds like someone's boiling an old hob-kettle - y'know, the ones that whistle when the water boils - while Adam emotes dramatically. They're probably making some dressing-room beverage with honey and ginger and lemon in it, and just in the nick of time if that scream is anything to go by.
It'd be awful if he had to spend the rest of the song coughing and rasping like an old gipper.
And an affront to the old gipper community, probably.
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CD Released: April 26th
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(Fraser McAlpine)
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Comment number 1.
At 12:13 21st Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:The problem is that Adam needs a hit, he is capable of singing absolutely anything in any genre so what does he sing? there are 14/18 very diverse songs on his album any one of which could have been a single, and tousands of very diverse fans all of which have an opinion as to which song should be it. I the circumstances I think he chose well even though that isn't my favorite song on the Album,(Broken Open and Down the Rabbit hole are much better, and also show off his songwriting abilities) he was also trying to break out of the Nicey Niceness of American Idol, hence the Lyric 'Bet you thought I was soft and sweet, Fallen Angel swept you off your feet' It was too much for America however and they had to resort to the safer 'What do you want from me' after all, which was a shame.
This song may not display his fantastic voice as well as it should, but there are other songs on the Album which do, and this is only the beginning anyway.
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At 12:40 21st Apr 2010, Cattywoman wrote:I don't watch American Idol. I've never heard of this guy before but I love the song. I heard it on the 519 show a couple of weeks ago and was surprised I hadn't heard it before or since on Radio 1.
I can't hear the resemblance to Womaniser at all. If it bore any similarity to Womaniser, I'd hate it. If anything, the intro reminds me of Sam Sparro's Black and Gold and the whole track is Goldfrapp-like.
I can't comment on Adam Lambert's vocals based on one song but what I can say is that there is no indication of autotune on this track and that is something you can't say for the "singer" and song Fraser McAlpine is comparing him and it with.
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At 12:53 21st Apr 2010, EmmaDee wrote:I LOVE this song! Catchy, sexy and sure to be hit on the dancefloor. Adam's voice is spectacular. I heard a couple of times on Channel 4, it would be great to hear it on Radio 1.
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At 12:57 21st Apr 2010, theNicksterR wrote:Well I ABSOLUETY LOVE this song! I have been waiting to hear it on Radio 1 for ages and am staggered that it has only been played once to my knowledge. I listen to Radio 1 every day at work and find it ridiculous that For Your Entertainment hasn't been added to the playlist considering some of the songs I hear on a daily basis. I agree with Cattywoman in that I don't hear the resemblance to Womaniser and please do not place him in the same sentence as Selena Gomez! It is a fantastic fun song that puts a smile on my face whilst I am bouncing around my house! Adam Lambert is one of the most exciting performers to come out of the States for a long time, his vocal skills are unmatched, his performance skills constantaly surprise, astonish and amaze, and his album is packed of tracks that connect emotionally on many levels. I recomend that everyone buys a copy on May 3rd, you will not be disappointed. I do not skip ANY tracks on the album and that is saying something! He is an absolutely amazing singer and performer and the fact that I might get to see him sing live next Monday in London makes me so excited that I might actually be a little bit sick!!!
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At 13:02 21st Apr 2010, theNicksterR wrote:OMG typing fail! haha! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SONG! PLEASE PLAY IT RADIO 1!
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At 13:07 21st Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:I'm trying not to laugh. Not just at the ridiculous comparison to the Selena and Britney songs but at the absurdity of mentioning someone with a voice like Adam Lambert in the same article as a girl with a sweet but unspectacular voice and the most successful marketing and production exercise in the history of music.
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At 14:00 21st Apr 2010, PhobicSunday wrote:"Or to put it another way, what Adam needs is a song which is as startling as his throatal twangfastics. This is not that song."
Or to put it another way, what Adam needs is a song that is as catchy and instant as any new artist needs. This is that song.
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At 14:15 21st Apr 2010, CurtainJerker wrote:Attention Adam Lambert fansite coach party. Your coach is blocking the entrance to the Chartblog car park. Please move it immediately.
Thank you.
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At 14:28 21st Apr 2010, MrazAttack10 wrote:This songs quite good to be honest, i've heard it on my local radio (BBC Radio 1 wasnt working for me that day) when they interviewed him and i hope he does well with this song, 4 Stars!
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At 14:35 21st Apr 2010, rosie wrote:I totally agree with all magsmagenta said. Adam is the first singer I have ever been fangirly over. I never even followed anyone like I do Adam when I was in my teens or 20,30's
Not only does Adam have a great voice and superb Album he has the ability to draw fans of all ages and from all walks of life.
The Album is the first for many years ( if ever before ) that has something for everyone.
If you are unsure of FYE on first listen then listen again it really is a great song.
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At 14:56 21st Apr 2010, Natasha wrote:I think this song is great. It's definately a grower, the more times you hear it the catchier it is! It's a great tune to dance to and also demonstrates lamberts exceptional vocals. It's a great first single for him to bring out, as it introduces his attitude and his wild sexy nature, but the rest of the album shows his diversity as an artist and there really is something for everyone. 'FYE' DOES have some similarity to other songs in the charts at the moment, but does that not go for most songs that have ever hit the mainstream? hit songs should demonstrate whats popular now. And 'FYE' still shows significant difference to others. His vocals, for one, are like no other. The lyrics (especially for a male artist) are risky and clever, and even though its argued that the song sounds similar to others, I think it's totally fresh and appealing to a wide variety of listeners.
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At 14:57 21st Apr 2010, spirit wrote:CHART BLOG welcomes ADAM LAMBERT fans ! I will post at length later . Yes his album has some very good tracks .
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Comment number 13.
At 15:14 21st Apr 2010, Cattywoman wrote:CurtainJerker, I can't speak for the others but I wouldn't consider myself a fan. I only know this song and I like it and not the one it's being compared to. Anything wrong with that?
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Comment number 14.
At 15:21 21st Apr 2010, suebella wrote:what on earth are you on Fraser McAlpine....that self-indulgent verbiage is one of the worst critiques of a new song by a new artist that I have ever read......don't you do ANY RESEARCH.......? ever??????
ADAM LAMBERT is the best singer/songwriter/entertainer/artist/dancer since ELVIS.......
he is truly beautiful to look at and amazing to listen to as he pours his heart and soul into everything he sings
ADAM is already a worldwide phenomonen
the FYE album is just as he wanted it....many genres and styles to showcase his TALENT and irresistable appeal
to compare him with Selena and Brittney is ludicrous, laughable and just shows how little you know of the man
just GOOGLE and YOUTUBE him...open your ears and he will open your heart and your mind
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At 15:26 21st Apr 2010, steelcitylambrit wrote:Really don't see the similarity to "Womaniser", maybe to "Black and Gold" a bit though.
Very glad you've pointed out Adam's undeniable ability though. His range, control and projection are just out of this world, and I say that as someone who has a degree in music and who has a lot of friends who are excellent singers! He can sing just about anything and completely excel at it, as evidenced in his Idol run and beyond.
This is a great first single, I think - commercial but with a bit of edge to it. It's not my absolute favourite on the album, but it's certainly up there in the top 4 or 5.
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At 15:28 21st Apr 2010, BLagoon wrote:Attention Curtain Jerker, a wit has become available for implant. Please come for compatability tests immediately.
For what it's worth, I think Adam Lambert is exceptionally talented as a singer and performer and a rarely charismatic personality and I love this song. It's just the sort of thing I hoped he would do. There are other similar tracks on his album and I wish there were more like it but Adam is versatile and has many different influences and there is nothing wrong with that. Most artists who stick to one genre only do that because they are limited in their ability, not through choice.
I will hold my horses on how successful I think he will be though.
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At 15:46 21st Apr 2010, jo1213 wrote:I think Adam is just what the U.K music scene needs ,Adam is going to be very iconic as he can sing any style and his album is very diverse. we do not need another singer who's songs sound all the same.
Adam is a breathe of fresh air who can do acoustic to hard rock.Adams live performances are amazing and he is a great showman .
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At 15:55 21st Apr 2010, mangsy wrote:Sheesh! You can think what you like, fundamentalists out there, but please don´t have a go at Fraser. No research!? NO RESEARCH???!! Like, oooh I don´t know what to think about this artist because I haven´t googled him...? And he´s not even very critical about Lamberto, quite the opposite.
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At 16:08 21st Apr 2010, BB wrote:It's amazing he already has friends and fans in Zeppelin, Slash, Spielberg, Paul McCartney, Steven Tyler, Tim Burton, Demi Moore, JMcHale, Rob Marshall, Muse, Madonna, Cuomo, Selena Williams, Gaga, LPerry, P&Lisa Presley, Stephen Fry, Justin Hawkins, Tegan & Sara, Rob Halfrod....the rest...but he deserves it. He's been working in the Industry for over a Decade and is just one of the coolest, NICEST, engaging celebs you'll meet. Hysterical sense of humor. Tons of executive realness but tons of warmth and earthiness. He should release Voodoo, Soaked, Broken Open and Sleepwalker.
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At 16:14 21st Apr 2010, CurtainJerker wrote:If we lived in some kind of nightmarish dystopian future where tannoy announcements offering invasive surgery to improve your sense of humour were as commonplace as ones about blocking people in... that would be the best comeback EVER.
Catty - nothing wrong at all. But there's a history of fanclubs periodically signing up here en masse to moan about an unfavourable review for their act (Killers, Mika, etc), then disappearing a day or two later. This looks like one of those times. The regulars normally have a laugh about it, and we will likely continue to do so.
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Comment number 21.
At 16:19 21st Apr 2010, PeroxidePixie wrote:I've been playing this track non stop since December 2009 I love it, I actually think it's one of the best tracks on the album and that's coming from someone who didn't watch American Idol and my favorite band is Muse! The song puts me in mind of Goldfrapp and Sam Sparro, it's super sexy. Maybe when he arrives in the UK this week and comes and has a chat with radio 1 you'll get more of an idea of what he's about, check out Down the Rabbit Hole on is VH1 unplugged session to get an proper impression of his ablity, I'm hooked.
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At 16:26 21st Apr 2010, U14429597 wrote:after reading these reviews for who-only-knows-how-long, I always wondered why a) Chartblog reviews song NOT on the radio 1 play-list and b) why some of the songs they review aren't on the play-list? Anyone know why?
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At 16:27 21st Apr 2010, U14429597 wrote:By that I mean some of the songs that aren't on the play-list that are reviewed should be!
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At 16:35 21st Apr 2010, Lishie wrote:Can't see the similarity to Womanizer at all, it's nothing like. I loved FYE from the first time I heard it! very catchy, dancey but still shows Adam has a fantastic voice and as someone else pointed out the song's got abit of an edge to it. His album is fantastic and so diverse, it's the first album I've ever bought were I've actually loved every single song on it though my fave can change from day to day, and I like that about it. Not only does he have an incredible voice but he is also an amazing performer
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At 16:56 21st Apr 2010, Vickster wrote:Ditto to those above in that I can't see where Womanizer fits in with this track. But I'm loving this debut track and really looking forward to the album - from the comments above it sounds as though it's a great album. Does it really matter he is AI Alumni? Radio 1 go gaga over Leona Lewis who actually won X Factor so I don't see the difference personally.
I for one am enjoying Adam's sound compared to some of the R&B/Rap rubbish that seems to be churned out by Radio 1 these days (if I wanted to listen to that, I'd listen to 1Xtra....).
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At 17:10 21st Apr 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:I think the connection with Womanizer comes from the vocal melodies in the verse, which are very similiar, and the fact that it's a similar type of music. I can also see why people say it's very similar to Black and Gold.
Personally for me it's no more than a 3 Star song because all the elements seem to come from other songs and because that synth sound irritates me so much.
@ 14
Sorry to burst your bubble Suebella but ADAM LAMBERT is the best singer/songwriter/entertainer/artist/dancer since ELVIS doesn't come under the category of research, and is also complete rubbish in my opinion (look up, Queen, David Bowie, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin for starters)
Also phrases like just GOOGLE and YOUTUBE him...open your ears and he will open your heart and your mind just get on my nerves, I listen to that song three times and it hardly opened my heart or my mind!
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At 17:16 21st Apr 2010, Bella wrote:As someone who is usually a fan of heavy/industrial rock like Rammstein, AC/DC and Metallica, I absolutely adore Adam. I think we've been waiting a while for the next big international male pop star, and think Mr Lambert is it. Can't wait to see him at Heaven on Monday!
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Comment number 28.
At 19:14 21st Apr 2010, mrseyebalpaul wrote:I have been a fan since Idol auditions, but his version of Ring of Fire was attention grabing. His vocals ability is out of this world and his stage presence is eye catching.
I bought the album as soon as it came out and I love For Your Entertainment as the single, I think a good choice for his debut single cannot see the comparison with 'Womaniser'.
I have always been a fan of flambouyant rock stars but also of rock music, previous most listened to was My Chemical Romance and Avenged Sevenfold but Adam Lambert has taken the crown. (GunsNRoses, Hanoi Rocks and Motley Crue back in the day)
My husband loves Adams music and album as well and is coming with me to the gig at Heaven next week, and came with me to see Adam on his last trip to Birmingham.
I am surprised that I have not heard it more on radio 1. Adam Lambert is sure to be a sensation over here.
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Comment number 29.
At 19:47 21st Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:CurtainJerker, I'm a regular on here and several other BBC boards but I don't see how or why that makes my opinion more valid than those of some who may not be.
Besides, just because someone's name is new doesn't mean they are, just because someone doesn't post about anything and everything doesn't mean they don't browse.
mangsy, I tend to agree with Fraser a lot but on this occasion, I find his comments contradictory and the conclusion reeks of excuses for Radio 1 not having playlisted this. I could pick at all the other holes in this review but I'll leave it at that.
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Comment number 30.
At 20:37 21st Apr 2010, GhostShip wrote:I like this. If anything it actually reminds me of Michael Jackson.
It's certainly better than a lot of the trash that I'm hearing on R1 these days. Please tell me why I'm on the verge of giving up on the station.
Womaniser? How does this sound like that mess?
All that said, I have to second what Adam Stocks said - why does ChartBlog review songs that aren't even on the R1 playlist? Is it after some sort of vindication of not playlisting songs. If so, it rarely gets it and I doubt it's going to get it in this instance. Too good a song for too many people to agree with the decision or the review.
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At 22:57 21st Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Wow. These coachloads never fail to amaze me. So, any of you American?
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At 23:35 21st Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:This review has the potential to turn into an epic.
Well done Adam Lambert fans for, despite probably being of a mould as, not behaving like the Mika fans!
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At 23:36 21st Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:of the same mould as*
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At 23:41 21st Apr 2010, Amy m wrote:We all love a catchy song yes???.... Well this is one to write home about!! Am I an Adam Lambert fan? Hell yes!! Loved him last year on American idol and hope to heck he does half as well plus what he deserves too!! Can't wait for him to gig in Manchester, if he is half as entertaining as he was on idol I will get my monies worth!! Look guys he is starting out and for his first album he has done himself proud, after all he is here for our entertainment!! Ps loving the eye make up!!!! Long live Adam;)
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At 23:42 21st Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Oh and yeah this song is Black and Gold. It's very Sam Sparrow and Mika.
I was hoping for more Mika meets Slash :(
I have a selection of Adam Lambert's covers on my iTunes, from American Idol. Some amazing stuff there, 'Cryin'', 'One' and 'Feeling good' being the highlights.
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At 23:47 21st Apr 2010, Amy m wrote:Jonesybcfc- nope not American and not on no coach!! Just liking someone for thinking outside the box!! Seems to me that 'newbys' are not welcome by some on this site?? (curtianjerker??) However if Iike it I will shout about it!!
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At 00:04 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:ADAM LAMBERT - "For Your Entertainment "
This comes as absolutely no surprise to me , that there are so many people here , who are moved by Adam and his music.
Coming second on American Idol , and having the winner Kris Allen even saying :
"Adam deserved this. "
Some of my highlights included Adam's versions of Whole Lotta Love and If I Can't Have You.
To prove just how special Adam is , as a man , and as a vocalist , you just have to listen to Queen guitarist and legend , Brian May , when he admitted that he was seriously considering hiring Adam as Queen's lead singer for a world tour .
Yes , he visualised Adam as a talent , that would do justice to those Queen classics. previously sang by the amazing Freddie Mercury.
This is praise indeed .
The journey Adam has been on lends himself to have so many devoted fans.
Some could even argue that Adam Lambert is the first openly gay mainstream pop artist to launch a career on a major label in America.
That interview Adam conducted with Rolling Stone Magazine after American Idol , must have took a lot of guts , and I am sure this lends people to admire his determination and spirit , as well as his music and vocal articulation and passion.
My first introduction to Adam's album was around 6 months ago , when I was invited to hear the finished product , but as an added piece of fun , I had to guess the tracks written by Justin Hawkins , Pink and Muse !
Yeah , of course , I guessed correct.
It's a good album , with fine songs and high songwriting strength and Adam delivers the vocals with that superb voice of his .The thing that may hamper it in the UK, is that it's slightly middle of the road in it's song arrangements and production values , though there is no doubting there are some fine songs housed inside , and America loved it because of this.
It entered the America chart at number 3 , but may prove too MOR for huge British success .
The Pink penned track " What Do You Want From Me ? ", is my personal highlight , and was my hope for the first single. On a personal level , this songs meaning is so emotive to me , and Adam's voice really reaches me , that I can't help but give it 5 stars .
The bridge and chorus are absolutely first class , and when he sings :
"I think you could save my life " , well it hits me.
A truly special song .
Regarding the single "For Your Entertainment " , it is currently number 57 on downloads , up from last weeks 73 , and with the physical release , I dearly hope that he makes the top 40.
Given the profile of the singer , I am surprised that Radio 1 have so far not playlisted the song , given Adam's American Idol adventure and the obvious amount of fans he is building in the UK.
It is a very radio friendly song with a strong , memorable chorus , and Channel 4 are using it , in various guises on TV.
I would love to know why it has not been playlisted .
One of life's little mysteries.
Some may argue that it sounds too American and MOR , for Radio 1 , but then this wonderful station plays a fair amount of Glee tracks.
The only answer is for Adam's fans to get the song into the top 40 , it's number 57 now , so go get downloading !
I would dearly love someone to do a gig review of Adam's appearance at Heaven , can anyone oblige ?
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At 00:26 22nd Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:I only just registered but I'm not new to this site, it's just the first time I've felt moved to make a comment, and I'm certainly British, I'm certainly not an American Idol fan unless Adam's on, my favorite Band is Iron Maiden. Adam grabbed my attention last year with his Ring of Fire, and I found myself loving him despite my reservations about the whole American Idol thing, just could not help it.
I've never bothered to request Iron Maiden on Radio 1 because I know there's about as much chance of them being played as Gordon Brown turning out to be an Alien, but I'm amazed that Adam is being ignored by Radio 1 because For Your Entertainment is so obviously aimed at their target audience, and even sounds good to me as a confirmed Metalhead.
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At 01:05 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Liam , you maybe interested to hear Soaked by Adam Lambert .
I think you may like it.
Ditto Whataya Want From Me ? , which I am sure you will love after a couple of plays.
This song moves me .
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At 07:06 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I agree with all you said about the build up to Adam. I followed it with interest. . . like I said I have some of his Idol stuff. Also was interesting to see some of the stuff that happened afterwards, like when he kissed a man on live TV during a performance and the complete and utter madness that kicked off as a result.
So when I heard this I was very disapointed! I will listen to some of the other tracks you mention Spirit and see if he lived up to the expectations in another way.
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At 07:33 22nd Apr 2010, CoyCarrie wrote:I've just been reading all the comments and am surprised to learn this isn't on the Radio 1 playlist. It sounds just like the kind of thing Radio 1 DJs play, and better than a lot of it.
I don't know much about Adam Lambert but I'm beginning to get why his fans jump to his defence so much. From the little I've seen and heard (music and interviews) he's obviously a real and unusual talent and seems a lot more intelligent than most of our current stars.
Don't know how well he'll do here in the UK, but if Radio 1 won't put him on their playlist (can anyone tell me why?) he could have a hard time.
Does anyone know what stations are playing him? I may go and listen to those instead as Radio 1 was already getting on my nerves. I mean, Justin Bieber and Diana Vickers?? Really???
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At 08:40 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:AmyM and anyone else- all are welcomehere on ChartBlog, we regulars are actually quite nice people. We just find it amazing when a certain artist's release triggers a 'coachload' of commenters who are obviously passionate fans. It has happened before, Liam mentioned Mika (who's fans got quite aggressive), and it's just funny to see who gets the coachload of fans commenting. As long as you don't get aggressive like the Mika lot, I have no issue with you at all and welcome you to our merry little land.
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At 09:33 22nd Apr 2010, PeroxidePixie wrote:jonesybcfc I'm from Bristol in the UK. Don't worry I'm not going to get aggressive lol, I don't expect everyone to like the same music as me my tastes are fairly diverse, I like anything from metal/drum n bass/ pop/electronica/classical the world would be a a boring place if we all agreed on everything :)
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At 09:51 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:It would be indeed, and it's also why ChartBlog w
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At 09:51 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:*works.
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At 10:13 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Just to let the regulars know why we have so many wonderfully passionate Adam Lambert fans here .
For Your Entertainment is NOT on any of the Radio 1 playlists , either A , B or C.
I feel myself that the song , at least warrants a C listing , as it is currently just outside the top 40 , at 57 , his album will be released on May 3rd , he has released a radio friendly track , albeit drenched in Americana , his global profile and journey is well documented ,he is a "new" act , and he no doubt , has many fans in the UK .
I expect Adam's websites and fansites have constructively asked his fans to lobby Radio 1 messageboards to ask for his song to be playlisted , as physical release date approaches , and the business people and fans are bemused why radio is not forthcoming.
All these well meaning Adam fans are asking for Radio 1 to playlist his song , and this is done because of their affinity with the singer.
This is why we are having the joy of meeting such well meaning fans , I just hope one of them will write a gig review for Adam's gig at Heaven, and I hope some of them stick around and comment on some other artists and join in the fun we have here .
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At 10:41 22nd Apr 2010, PeroxidePixie wrote:Spirit I have to say I actually agree with most of your comments about the album, I'm still confused why some of the best tracks are only bonus tracks (Voodoo and Down the Rabbit Hole), I'm glad they are going to be on the UK release as I think the UK will appreciate these tracks. I'm hoping on the next album Adam pushes for being heavily involved in the writing process and taking more creative risks.
I'm going to be at the gig on Monday but I am useless at writing so it wouldn't be worth me writing a review.
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At 11:06 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Pixie , write it from YOUR perspective .
A few lines .
Favourite songs , what he was wearing , crowd reaction , how was his voice , his rapport with the crowd and vice versa.
I would be interested to hear , which song gets the biggest audience reaction .
I am not sure if For Your Entertainment was the correct choice for the first major UK introductory single , as radio is not fully embracing it .
My choice would have been Whataya Want From Me ? , If I Can't Have You , Aftermath or Music Again , but the whole album , as I have mentioned before is sonically , clearly aimed at the American market to a strong degree .
Some may argue they are very good songs , but lack the musical glow that emits from songs needed to fully infiltrate the Radio 1 playlist .
Surely the reason for not playlisting Adam's song would have been given to Adam's professional music pluggers.
Surely a slight remix to get songs on the playlist and be more accessible to the British music sound , if needed , could have been forthcoming.
A man with Adam's story and global profile , should be having his song played on Uk radio , and it was up to his management and team to ensure this happened .
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At 11:12 22nd Apr 2010, rosie wrote:I am sure there will be lots of reviews written by people who are going to the gig on Monday. May I suggest you check Rock Star weekly uk sometime next week. There will be a review written there.
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At 11:40 22nd Apr 2010, DavidsGirl wrote:The inaccuracies in this review are as startling.
Re-released? The song has never been released in this country before. The album of the same name was made available on import at the time of its release in the States and the UK version is available from 3 May.
Download available now? No, the download is not officially available until 26 April, the same as the physical copy. The track that some are downloading and hence why it has been in the top 100 for the past four weeks is as a single track from the import album.
Given this obvious slacking in doing basic homework, should the review be given the oxygen of attention? Perhaps not but for its humour – the unintentional part of which is funny even if the intentional parts are as amusing as a wisdom tooth extraction.
Womaniser? It may have escaped your notice that For Your Entertainment has more than three notes.
Also, what makes it OK for a lesser vocalist to sing this type of music but not a better one? Adam Lambert has nothing to prove on the vocal front. If anything, he comes in for more criticism whenever he showboats his ability so I don’t what a four-minute exhibition of vocal prowess would be expected to achieve for him.
The posters who noticed the similarity to Black & Gold would deserve bonus points if it weren’t for the fact that it is indeed a sample.
Just to pick up on what a couple of other posters have said:
Newbies, please don’t think all BBC message board users are so precious about them or so dismissive of new users.
CurtainJerker, as a transplant patient I can say that whilst organ availability might not be broadcast over tannoys yet, it certainly is by phone call and even text these days. A sign of the times.
Curtain Jerker / jonesybcfc, if “coachloads” of fans turn up, perhaps that is because there are coachloads of fans.
Jonesybcfc, Adam Lambert has many fans in the UK already, many of who were not even reality TV followers. Any Americans that bother to post on non-US message boards about him tend to be his detractors rather than his fans. By the way, despite often being given good reason to get at least defensive, I can’t say I’ve ever seen Adam Lambert’s fans getting aggressive.
GhostShip, spot on with the Michael Jackson comment. I totally see what you mean now you’ve mentioned it.
Suebella, steady on, unless you have a crystal ball.
Harrythedog10, if being a similar type of music were the criteria, we would have to compare every song to every other song in the same way as this is being compared to Womaniser.
BloggingLiam, “of a mould as” ? I like it but I don’t see why you would assume that most or even many Adam Lambert fans and Mika fans are in the same mould. I’ve tended to find that very few Mika fans actually like Adam Lambert (hmmmm …….. can’t think why for the life of me ……..). Some people who would have liked Adam to go the rock route have said they are disappointed but Adam didn’t promise anything other than eclecticism and when you have the versatility he has, why shouldn’t you use it? Particularly as dance music is his personal preference.
Spirit, loving your work, though I have to disagree with the “drenched in Americana” comment. This track was actually criticised by American radio for, among other things, “being too international in sound for an American Idol contestant’s debut”. Go figure as they would say. Also, you say radio isn’t fully embracing this song. Make that Radio 1 because commercial radio are more than supportive of it.
CoyCarrie, well, …………. I was going to hesitate to mention the bemusing case of Radio 1's fascination with boy who is the epitome of everything Radio 1 tends to loathe yet whose records they bash out ad nauseum, and the pauper’s Delores O’Riordan meets the beggar's Jane Horrocks. As I said to Spirit, commercial radio is playing him though and many commercial radio stations are playing him quite a lot and with a lot of enthusiasm from the presenters and listeners. Of course, if the song is a hit, Radio 1 will not hesitate in saying that they told you so and not for the first time. Then Radio 1 wonder why they are constantly haemorrhaging listeners to the point that even their chart show – the official chart show – is no longer the most listened to.
Anyway, back to the topic, Radio 1 are missing a huge trick, not just with this song but with this artist.
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At 12:13 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Hi David's Girl , so nice of you to join us .
Your love for Adam and his music is clear , for all to see .
At present . For Your Entertainment is not in the UK top 50 Radio airplay chart , so it is not being "fully " embraced by radio ,prior to it's release and not being heard by a large radio audience , which will obviously hamper it's chances of retail success.
Maybe , with your vast knowledge, you can share the reason why Radio 1 are yet to playlist the track ?
(For those of you interested , Scouting For Girls have had the most heard song on UK radio for the last 2 weeks .)
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At 12:23 22nd Apr 2010, Fraser McAlpine - wrote:Hello to everyone!
Can I lob some more information into this seething maelstrom? Might help clear a few things up, or not:
1: I've no affiliation with the Radio 1 playlist, so can't answer any questions about it.
2: The song's already hovering outside the UK Top 40, on download sales. Which means you can buy it.
3: This is taken from the press release: "Adam's first single, 'For Your Entertainment' was written by Claude Kelly ('Circus' by Britney Spears) and Dr. Luke ('I Kissed A Girl' by Katy Perry and 'Girlfriend' by Avril Lavigne, 'Right Round' by Flo Rida, along with multiple singles by Kelly Clarkson) and produced by Dr. Luke."
Everything else is, of course, subjective, and everyone's views are very welcome and gratefully received!
Fraser
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At 12:29 22nd Apr 2010, DavidsGirl wrote:Thanks, Spirit. I don't have vast knowledge and even less of an idea why Radio 1 haven't playlisted this song.
If the song is not in the top 50 airplay chart, it could have fooled me because I never fail to hear it on each journey on whatever commercial radio station covers the area I happen to be driving through.
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At 12:43 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Oh , joy , he is still breathing .
Fraser , obviously the reason why , we have so many Adam Lambert fans here , is because a lot of them have been directed here to stress his strengths and "lobby" Radio 1 Messageboards to enhance the chances of getting "For Your Entertainment " onto the Radio 1 playlist .
As your name appears on the review , I am surmising some see you , under the Radio 1 umbrella , as part of the decision why Adam is not playlisted , , although you have stressed that you have no association with the Playlist Panel .
I am sure a lot of people here want to know why Adam isn't playlisted , but obviously that was up to the skills of his record company , song ,and the professional pluggers to get it there.
Because no one appears to know the exact reason why " For Your Entertainment " is not playlisted ,and indeed , if it will be playlisted, this has caused the "lobbying" to start.
Any ideas , why it is not playlisted ?
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At 12:47 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:Spirit
I don’t know where you get the idea that Adam’s album is aimed at the US market at all. It was never intended to. They were willing to forego Adam’s potential success in the US for the sake of his worldwide appeal that had become apparent during the contest itself. From the very start, the album was intended to have an “international” sound, whatever that is. The only “American” sounding tracks are Whataya Want From Me, Aftermath and Time for Miracles. The rest, if anything, sounds more British than most British artists these days.
What sort of “musical glow” is needed to infiltrate the Radio 1 playlist? Are we talking about the same playlist on the same station? Have you taken a look at the Radio 1 playlist lately? Most of what’s on there emits something but its more of a stench than a glow.
Indeed it is up to the people you mention to get songs played and they are told the reasons for not playlisting (I know of a band whose record company were given the reason by Radio 1 for not playlisting their single that it was “the most pop track on their album” ………… I don’t know when Radio 1 started thinking it was highbrow) but from information I have from reliable sources, the record company were more than willing to accept this song not being playlisted if it guaranteed that another song they were plugging would move up the playlists. It’s all part of the game.
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At 12:58 22nd Apr 2010, PeroxidePixie wrote:geminiFraggleRock I was glad Sony UK pushed for For your Entertainment being the first single, I thought it was the perfect choice as an introduction, I think it's more European sounding than say Whataya want from Me which is too middle of the road for a first single in the UK and very American.
I also think Fever would be a great choice as a single but I can imagine it won't happen.
Surprised this song hasn't been playlisted be interested to know the reasons.
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At 13:00 22nd Apr 2010, Fraser McAlpine - wrote:Hi Spirit, I was assuming that the daily updates were kind of a clue as to my continued existence. ;-)
I don't want to speculate on playlist decisions, it's not my place, especially not in such a heated forum. In a way, I'm the LAST person who should have insider info on the playlist,cos I'm reviewing the songs from a very subjective place.
Not Cornwall, obviously. I can PROVE that exists.
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At 13:08 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:Hi Gemini .
Most of the time , regarding the Radio 1 playlist , it is clear to me , why songs have A , B annd C playlists due to chart positions , appeal , target audience , style of music etc
However , in this instance , I would have have thought Adam would have gained a C list placing, for reasons previously covered.
For once , I am left to assume and surmise , but must admit given his story , visit to the UK and global profile , I am surprised he is not on it.
Is there a sinister "behind the scenes " reason for his omission?
Surely RCA records know , maybe you can lobby them ?
Who knows ?
By the time the Playlist Panel amend the playlist next Wednesday , he may be on it.
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At 13:17 22nd Apr 2010, spirit wrote:@57
Lovely to hear from you , anyway .
I remember the furore caused when Radio 1 changed their playlist strategy in the 90's , and disgruntled Status Quo and Cliff Richard fans , were in bits , as to why their songs were not on the playlist.
;)
This is slightly different though , given the "journey" of the artist , though I am not suggesting for one minute , that Cliff Richard has never travelled .
:)
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At 13:37 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:Phew, I'm tired just reading all this. Just to set the record straight, I don't mind Adam Lambert or his fans at all, you seem like passionate and interesting people. The term 'coachload' is one often used on threads like this, it's more a compliment to Lambert than an insult. The American question I asked was simply out of interest, to see if any Yanks ever read the ChartBlog, and to see the true extent of Lamberts UK fanbase. And I didn't accuse anyone if being aggressive but some of the mika fans on the 'Rain' thread.
Fraser, everybody knows Cornwall is not a real place. It's an extremely surreal place.
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At 14:41 22nd Apr 2010, islasands wrote:Here in NZ Lambert's album has gone Gold, and both the released singles, For Your Entertainment and Whatya Want From Me, are flying high in countdown radio and on our MTV stations. We don't have idolmania in NZ and we view Lambert as an independent artist. I was interested to read this review, as I had some preconceived ideas that the UK would be far more open to Lambert's transformative pop/rock eclecticism than the USA has been - but perhaps not. Claude Kelly has given Lambert a song that throws down a gauntlet to all the girls singing in the club; it's a song driven by and charged with male sexual energies. Could someone like Spears have done Kelly's song justice? No. Can't think of anyone else who could sing it, actually, and mean it the way Lambert does! LOL
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At 15:21 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:islasands
Many had the misconceived idea that the UK would be far more open to Adam Lambert, his music, his persona and him generally but I don't know where this idea stemmed from. The UK in 2010 is very different to the UK in 1980 and not in a positive way.
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At 15:59 22nd Apr 2010, Marie1991 wrote:This track will flop due to lack of airplay which is a shame as it’s a lot better than much of the tosh that spills out of radio these days and is much better sung than other songs in its genre.
Sadly the album that it’s from will probably flop too as a consequence.
The saddest thing is this song by any of several other artists would be all over Radio like a rash. It’s the artist they are having trouble embracing not the song. For all his talent, his persona doesn’t sit well with the station that likes people to think it’s rational and forward thinking.
Adam is doing very well elsewhere and I had hoped that he would do well in the UK.
ISLASANDS, we don’t exactly have American Idol mania here either. The show is watched by just over half a million people in the UK and last year figures neared 1 million. Radio 1 plays tracks by Leona Lewis, Lemar, Girls Aloud, Alexandra Burke, JLS, Diana Vickers, Kelly Clarkson, etc. It’s nothing to do with the “talent show” tag unfortunately.
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At 16:00 22nd Apr 2010, Marie1991 wrote:That should have said:
"The saddest thing is this song by any of several other artists would be all over Radio 1 like a rash."
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At 17:03 22nd Apr 2010, harrythedog10 wrote:@ 50
I see your point but my comment about them being 'similar types of music' isn't that they're both pop song it's because they both come from the same area of slightly angry, dancey, synth pop tracks, Womanizer is a very good example of one of those tracks. It's similar to when people compare Vampire Weekend to Paul Simon, the comparison is because they do the same specific genre of music even if the songs are different.
P.S: I still think For Your Entertainment sounds like Womanizer.
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At 17:30 22nd Apr 2010, theNicksterR wrote:I just got to jump back on here to vent. I have been listening to Radio1 for years now but am getting more and more disallusioned by their playlist choices. I listen all day at work but am seriously considering finding another radio station. I really love this song and would love to hear it on Radio1. I have been listening at work all day today and was astounded by some of the songs that were played. And in comparison I just can't believe that For Your Entertainment is not on the playlist, it would appear to be an ideal track for their demographic. Every day this frustrates me that I just had to come here and vent. Sorry to the regular posters if this is not the place for it! :)
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At 18:27 22nd Apr 2010, _Maia wrote:Wasn't sure about this the first time I heard it, but after catching it a few times on some of the music channels it's definitely grown on me. Unlike the J. Bieber song, which gets progressively worse every time I hear it.
Surprised this apparently hasn't been picked up by Radio 1 (according to the comments here), but then my impression recently (maybe wrongly) is that the playlist is a lot smaller than it used to be? Or is it just my bad luck I always seem to hear the same handful of tracks played when I'm listening!
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At 18:43 22nd Apr 2010, ladymare wrote:I can’t hear any similarity to “Womaniser”, not least because “For Your Entertainment” is actually a song with a tune and is actually sung.
The thing with Radio 1 and this song is that it’s nothing to do with the song itself. The song is typical Radio 1 and chart fodder. It’s to do with Adam Lambert. Radio 1 is so far up its own that it’s in danger of having to treat itself with Anusol. It sees itself no longer as BBC radio’s light entertainment offering, and hasn’t for over a decade, but as a serious station for serious musicians making serious music. Adam’s mantra of “Don’t’ take me too seriously” doesn’t fit in with that.
I’m in a position to be able to say that Radio 1 receives many requests for this song. Not spamming, not from the same people or same addresses but simply many genuine requests. All to little avail. The song has been played once on Radio 1.
Unfortunately I have to say that perhaps Marie1991 has a point and the song and album will flop here as a result. Adam has a lot of fans in this country and it is they who noticed him before those in other countries did and who genuinely felt that this is where his greatest success would come. I get the feeling Adam himself did as he is such a fan of British music but he has shamefully failed to get the support of the British media (apart from the printed media) in a way that during and after American Idol seemed to be a given and the full blame for this has to go not to the media, much of which was very supportive of him during the contest (particularly the television media) but to those responsible for his promotion.
It is unfortunate that his record company has decided to concentrate most of its efforts on a girl who has no chance outside of the UK for a multitude of reasons but good luck to them and her. Hopefully once his contract is up, Adam will move away from the record company that has betrayed him in the UK.
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At 19:02 22nd Apr 2010, CurtainJerker wrote:Well lookie here. It looks like our friends above are known as "The Lambrits".
On their forums there's a whole thread dedicated to getting people to comment on here, started by our friend Rosie (she's also has been on the Digital Spy forums to get the numbers up). Take a little read. My particular favourites are by Vickster and Stardust.
joan13
Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:54 am
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Commented what a pillock . :oops:
twizzy
Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:18 am
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Lots of good comments there, which is great :)
Sorry if this sounds harsh but also everyone please remember not to gush too much. If we want the comments to be taken seriously, it's important that it doesn't just sound like an organised fanclub attack.
vickster
Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:58 am
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Well I took onboard Twizzy's post and have left a comment as though I've not got the album yet which of course we all know is a complete lie but I wanted to give the impression that I am new to Adam!
Rosie
Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:07 am
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See more logical thinking lol
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Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:10 am
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damn why didn't I think of that! lol
Fi
Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:13 am
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Was just going to post what Twizzy has posted. One of the site's regular posters has already commented that 'fan clubs' sometimes descend and then disappear again. If they decide that's what all the positive posts are down to they may just ignore them all:(
Stardust
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Completely ditto re Twizzy's comment (excuse my English but I'm sure you all know what I mean lol ).
Radio 1 will want to see objective comments. Obviously someone who's been a fan since Idol will love the single (usually). I think they want to hear from people who didn't really know him and for whom this is a first introduction. So pretend if you have to :shock:
And there I was making out there was a fanbus trying to swamp the comments board. Shame on me.
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At 19:17 22nd Apr 2010, Haducon2 wrote:Hello
Have no fear, I'm not a passenger on the adam fan bus, been wanting to comment here for a while.
Honestly, I do like the song and think adam is a huge talent.
But honestly, with this song I feel he may being trying too hard to be shocking and "in your face".
I believe he should have released 'whataya want from me' or 'fever' first, just to ease himself in first,
Instead of diving straight in with the shocktastics.
Take gaga for example, what would have happened is she barged straight in and released lovegame as her debut?
Anyway, I give this four stars.
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At 19:28 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:I'm not really in the mood for some massive debate with Adam Lambert fans. I guess mainly because I do actually believe in a good bit of what they are saying. Despite my earlier comment @35.. I've stated in the past (somewhere on the Rybak review) of my excitement for his up and coming stuff.
It's a shame I just really don't dig this track.
I also agree that he is a competent and interesting enough artist to warrent getting played on Radio1!
But what you guys all need to ask is, is that completely Radio1's fault? I don't know the playlist selection process (other than there's a weekly meeting with people such as Aled from the Chris Moyles show, where they decide it), but there's no garuntee that actually there's a reason this isn't play listed. It must be up to the record labels to a certain degree, to get their songs playlisted. Maybe there has been no effort made to platlist it.
It also seems that artists that put in face time in on the Radio1 get play listed. Maybe Radio1 has invited Adam over and got snubbed? I'm completely ignorant, is Adam coming over to the UK? If he's not coming over here at all, I'd also question whether he should be play listed.
Hope the album is better than this track.
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At 19:30 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:"If they decide that's what all the positive posts are down to they may just ignore them all:("
Did make me laugh though.
I'm glad somebody tracked down their recruitment thread. I did the same to Mika's coach and it really wound them up.
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At 19:30 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:Haducon2
You think this song is trying too hard to be shocking yet you suggest that Fever could have been released first instead. With the lyric "There HE goes"? Please!
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At 19:32 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:BloggingLiam
It's the other way around actually. When Adam was in the UK last month on a radio promo tour, they tried to book him into Radio 1 and Radio 1 said no.
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At 19:33 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:Blogging Liam
I missed the last part of your comment and should add that Adam is back here again as from today and again Radio 1 have said no.
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At 19:45 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Im not completely doubting you, just wondering how you know this gemini?
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At 19:47 22nd Apr 2010, ladymare wrote:70
Fever is hardly likely to be released as a single anywhere because it is the one song that is not lyrically neutral so would be seen as exactly what you are suggesting the rather unshocking For Your Entertainment is.
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As I said, RCA haven't exactly busted a gut pushing for this song to be playlisted or subsequently for spins to be increased on stations where it has been playlisted. However, that doesn't include not trying to book Adam for interviews on Radio 1 when he carried out his radio tour in March and now that he is back in the UK for live performances, TV, further radio promos over the few days but Radio 1 has declined the offer on both occasions.
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At 19:53 22nd Apr 2010, geminiFraggleRock wrote:Blogging Liam
That's obviously not something I am going to say on the radio station's own site but if there were a way of telling you privately I would.
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At 20:07 22nd Apr 2010, rosie wrote:Take it you are stalking me then CurtainJerker
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At 20:15 22nd Apr 2010, despair2where wrote:First can I say although I have just joined up and this is my first post I do regularly read the posts on this board, I find many of the contributers usually quite fair and knowledgable and it makes it good to read.
Why post now? Am I an Adam Lambert fan? - Yes. Am I a Lambrit or Glambert or any other name some of his fan groups call themselves? - No. Adam, like many other popstars does have his share of lets say "over invested" fans, but in general they are not malicious, just very protective.
From my own point of view I respect Adam as an artist and a person. He is not your average Reality TV performer. At 28 years old he has spent many years trying to get a break in the industry. Considering his talent that is unbelievable. Then again many people in the USA are less tolerant to his prefernces than we in the UK claim we are.
I am amazed that Radio 1 have not picked up this song, it is by no means the best song on his album, but it is radio friendly and much better than half of the tracks they currently have playlisted.
Radio 1 don't seem to have any problems showcasing other, less talented Reality TV people like Diana Vickers and JLS, so I would be interested to know what their problem is with Adam Lambert.
I just hope that all Adam's fans buy the single and remixes as soon as it comes out and when the playlist people see the midweeks they may relent.
Hope you regulars don't mind, I respect your all opinions and may post a bit more now I found my nerve.
To Spirit, I agree with everything you have posted on this thread. You rock! Thank you for such a balanced view.
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At 20:44 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:I can confirm that Liam did indeed give ol' Adam praise and noted his excitement for his upcoming stuff, i remember as i asked the question.
Haduken, if you are a new poster then welcome.
And despair2where, please dont give spirit praise, it makes him spontaneously combust. which can get messy.
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At 21:03 22nd Apr 2010, mrseyebalpaul wrote:Too many long comments to really read in detail, but did someone really go the Lambrits site purely to read comments to post here, do us Adam Lambert fans have that much affect on other people?
What is wrong with supporting an artist will exceptional talent.
Would love to know why not on radio 1 playlist, This is a brilliant song to play, loud with roof off/windows down etc, cant stop dancing whenever I hear it. Puts people in a happy mood.
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At 21:09 22nd Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:I personally cannot see what radio stations have against fans being organised, this is the age of mass communications, people can find each other so easily through forums and communicate through twitter ect. to flag up articles and opportunities to make our views known.
The problem comes when people are made to feel that this is forbidden, and therefore feel the need to post covertly in an attempt to disassociate themselves from the fangroup in the belief that they won't be taken seriously. I have on several occasions had strangers on Twitter and other places try to stop me from requesting Adams music by misinformation that people are Spamming and putting off TV and radio stations from booking him which is not the case. I have had to block people for this reason.
I am also a Lambrit and was a co-driver of the bus via the Lambrits Twitter and proud to be so. When was it ever a crime to rally friends to help in a shared cause?
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At 21:17 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:err... we dont work at the radio station (although we have contemplated it and it would make Radio 1 truly amazing) and we dont have anything against fans being passionate. At all.
However, i thought Curtains' work was very clever, and i personally find it funny how you organise a plan of attack to win round five of us ChartBloggers. But credit where credits due, i cant doubt your passion. 80 comments in a day is definitely an achievement, i certainly didnt see it coming.
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At 21:24 22nd Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:@bloggingliam and Geminifragglerock, Apparently since the delay to Adams visit caused by that Volcano, things seem to have changed slightly and Adams new schedule includes more BBC Promo, and a slot on the 5.19 show.
He did arrive today this afternoon, and has been recording interviews all afternoon and evening, Jetlag and all.
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At 21:39 22nd Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:By the way, anyone who finds themselves to be a new Adam fan can feel free to join us on the Lambrits site, we are a very friendly, helpful and cooperative lot.
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At 21:57 22nd Apr 2010, PhobicSunday wrote:magsmagenta
#83: If you are obviously part of a campaign, the chances are you won't be taken seriously. Alas, this attitude is typical of the site that you and a couple of others on here clearly belong to. I've browsed on there every now and then and not joined because it's so amateurishly run.
#85: Apart from the 5.19 Show all other BBC bookings on Adam's schedule are provisional and very much tbc.
#86: Advertising the fan site ........... very embarrassing.
jonesybcfc, BloggingLiam/.................
To be fair, there are only six names here I recognise from my browsing on the site.
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At 22:25 22nd Apr 2010, BLagoon wrote:What a shame.
Adam's great but some of his fans really have no idea. More than likely the older ones who are less in tune with the ways of the internet.
I have to agree with some of the views expressed on here since I posted but I hope they're wrong.
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At 22:37 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Lambrits, Glamberts or whatever other insane nicknames you have for youselves.. plus the other people claiming to just like "good music".. plus anybody new thos stunbled into this debate .. take note.
We are not a unwelcoming community. Please PLEASE continue to read reviews and post on this blog as much as possible. Myself and many of the other Chartbloggers are here for lively and entertaining debate about music. If you feel you have an opinion to throw in, please do. We love it. Honestly. I sometimes even post deliberately controversial things just to watch Spirit explode.
Now, realistically, you cannot expect us to not have a little giggle every time it is obvious that a group of you come over here to post how much you love an artist and that the reviewer is clearly wrong. It is amusing for us regular readers. I know that now 90% of you will probably never post again. Please feel free to prove me wrong, a growing community is what we want.
The more people that read this Blog and post on it, the better for the Blog. Even if you disagree with the reviewer! I myself often to. As long as you post without being complete idiots, which I'd comment most of you on doing, it's great. Normally at least half the posts by fanbois are deleted, because they are simply offensive. So I commend you guys on not posting as so.
The more traffic the blog gets, the more status it gets and the longer it keeps going. The blog is consitantly in the top 2 on Radio1, let's keep it that way.
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At 22:39 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:magsmagenta none of the posters on here work at the Radio station, to my knowledge, apart from the reviewer, Fraser McAlpine who's posts you can see in grey. Reggie posts every now and then, but we can pretend that never happens.
So not only are the radio station not against mass fan bases, neither are we. We just find it funny.
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At 22:40 22nd Apr 2010, jonesybcfc wrote:I second that.
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At 23:29 22nd Apr 2010, magsmagenta wrote:@bloggingLiam Thank you very much, if I see something I can constructivley contribute to I will,
@PhobicSunday, in the same sentence you say we are an organised campaign and then accuse us of being amaturish, which is a bit of a contradicton don't you think? The reason I stayed with the Lambrits was I found it to be the friendliest and most efficiently run of all the Adam Lambert fansites and believe me there are many. As far as I can see, if an artist has fans willing to give their time free of charge to an organised campaign, surely that is a sign that the artist has commercial potential. And as for advertising the fansite, I was merely trying to be friendly.
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At 23:46 22nd Apr 2010, manney wrote:Sounds like a bit of mutual advertising here for Lambrits website and this blog. Will it help sell Adam Lambert's single tho'?
Song is catchy and dancey. And has been mentioned it grows on you/me. Plenty of stuff that sounds like other stuff seems to sell well. I agree there is a bit of a Britney feel but having checked out some of his other stuff the dude can sing. May be interesting to see how far it gets without Radio 1, and how quickly they pick it up if it does well. Watch this space.
Re: playlists - like a lot of people, I'm sure, I make up my own ear-candy. Both commercial and Radio 1 seem to have pretty limited lists.
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At 23:53 22nd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:Advertising the Blog on the Blog? ..
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At 00:09 23rd Apr 2010, delia wrote:well I thought about it..quite a lot and I Know He is A Genius. I feel that Radio One needs to play his music. Adam Lambert. The man himself is an amazing charismatic performer and singer. And that is Why he has so many dedicated fans. It is important to listen to the whole album For Your Entertainment when it is available as it is one of the best albums you could wish to have in your record collection. But dont take my word for it. go listen....:)
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At 00:24 23rd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:The writing credits for the album are impressive, but Lambert doesn't feature much himself. A shame in my opinion.
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At 00:31 23rd Apr 2010, manney wrote:#94. Chart Blog talking about the Lambrits, Lambrits talking about Chart Blog. Is it mutual admiration though?
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At 00:33 23rd Apr 2010, manney wrote:And yes this means I have checked out that website too. Seems like they are all off to Heaven with Adam Lambert.
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At 01:59 23rd Apr 2010, islasands wrote:Came back to read further comments and have to say what a pleasure it is to read commentary that doesn't mindlessly vilify or adulate Lambert - or slam fellow commentators. Lambert has been so polarizing in the States that it is nigh on impossible to find articles that talk about his album and not his sexual orientation, "theatricality" and use of make-up etc.
So either you guys are great at moderating comments or people are actually interested in music.
I think the album is well worth a listen, as much because there is something very fresh about its unapologetic defiance of genre packaging,- as for the very real merit of some of the songs. Lambert had 3 months to get this "post-idol" album out, and has said that it is by no means his definitive album. I personally prefer the songs he penned or co-penned and am hopeful that his next album will give him opportunity to step forward in the spotlight of his own vision as an artist.
As some on this board have noted, Lambert has an ever growing and unusually devoted fan base, the majority of whom are not idol afficionados. His fandom's age demograph defies the ageism of pop-culture, its gender bias - predominantly heterosexual female - defies sexual orientation stereotypes, and its ferocious loyalty embraces far more of the social and political than generally attends "pop hero" status.
All in all, Lambert's music, personality, stage presentation and artistic visions are rather more fascinating than the flibberty-gibbet, autotuned and robot-voxed drivel that passes for talent on the pop charts today. I'm definitely watching his space.
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At 07:10 23rd Apr 2010, BloggingLiam wrote:100!
islasands are you saying that there were comments before vilifying or adulating Lambert before?! I can't see any really.
For future reference, if you make it back a 3rd time. Any comments that are removed are not done by anybody you can see posting here. There are a group of moderators who moderate all BBC blogs who just check all posts that go through. It is not us. If a comment is moderated, you know, it tells you it has been remoeved. It looks like the next comment ..
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